Facility Downgrades / Upgrades

GulfCharlie said:

You have that confused with low interest loans... courtesy of the Department of Commerce.

That too. Best to diversify

Their grocery stores must work with them. Maybe work as a bagger for groceries.

Checked CVG on the TCIP site. They are in the green for level 9. Upgrade should happen soon. Likely due to Amazon Prime hub.

ATC_BG said:

Checked CVG on the TCIP site. They are in the green for level 9. Upgrade should happen soon. Likely due to Amazon Prime hub.

Where can you find that information?

@Mc15

Air Traffic Activity System (ATADS)

It doesn't have the zones for the levels but you can get an idea for traffic counts.

Mc15 said:

Where can you find that information?

On an FAA computer. aap.faa.gov
Click I accept.
Then click on TCIP traffic count.
Then I believe in the menu it shows facilities above the buffer (likely to be upgraded) and below the buffer (likely to be downgraded)

fivebyfive said:

On an FAA computer. aap.faa.gov
Click I accept.
Then click on TCIP traffic count.
Then I believe in the menu it shows facilities above the buffer (likely to be upgraded) and below the buffer (likely to be downgraded)

I never have any luck on computers that are normally just unlocked and ready to use all day. I find I have to use my card to log into a computer for this site to work.

Random question but for a paper I am trying to find total flight operations in the U.S. per year... Would that be on there too?

@GulfBravoPapa all airports for 2018 through to 2019.

Awesome thanks! I've have to look up some more years when I am at work!

GulfBravoPapa said:

Awesome thanks! I've have to look up some more years when I am at work!

You can pull up this one at home or on your phone if you need it outside of an FAA computer.

Air Traffic Activity System (ATADS)

ATC_BG said:

Checked CVG on the TCIP site. They are in the green for level 9. Upgrade should happen soon. Likely due to Amazon Prime hub.

That’s crazy. Cool spot too

I believe they must be above the buffer for 12 consecutive months for the process to start for uprgrading at CVG. They fell below in recent months to restart that count.

Isnt there a grace period as well for falling below the buffer?

Foogy said:

Isnt there a grace period as well for falling below the buffer?

Yes. Must stay below the buffer for a year also, I'm pretty sure. Places that have ANG Units that deploy cause their number to drop drastically then see them pop right back up 6 months later. I don't have any of this in writing, and mostly going by hearsay and gut instinct.

rugbydog11 said:

I believe they must be above the buffer for 12 consecutive months for the process to start for uprgrading at CVG. They fell below in recent months to restart that count.

I believe it's 3 months above buffer to go up but 12 months below to go down.

corn4ahead said:

I believe it's 3 months above buffer to go up but 12 months below to go down.

It's 3 months in the green for up and 6 months in the red for down. Once you hit that threshold they will start the validation and audit process. That process has to be completed before you fall back out of the green. Even one month of nongreen can kill your audit.
You can survive (much) more than 6 months in the red under certain circumstances.

Omegahare said:

It's 3 months in the green for up and 6 months in the red for down. Once you hit that threshold they will start the validation and audit process. That process has to be completed before you fall back out of the green. Even one month of nongreen can kill your audit.
You can survive (much) more than 6 months in the red under certain circumstances.

Good to know. At a facility currently that's about to start hitting the 9 buffer.

boots said:

Good to know. At a facility currently that's about to start hitting the 9 buffer.

If you're an 8 going up you need to be approaching the 9 floor. If you're a 9 going down then the buffer is what you care about

MHT downgraded from a 5 to a 4. Effective date February 17, 2019.