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Facility Downgrades / Upgrades

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  1. Stinger #141

    BHM upgrade from 7 to 8. Effective 11-11-2018

  2. ATC_av8er #142

    BJC upgrade from a 6 to a 7 effective Oct. 14, 2018.

  3. CaptainObvious #143
    ATC_av8er said:

    BJC upgrade from a 6 to a 7 effective Oct. 14, 2018.

    I heard this, but I thought they gave a fit during the validation

  4. ATC_av8er #144
    CaptainObvious said:

    I heard this, but I thought they gave a fit during the validation

    We got screwed over during the validation in September but we got it this time a few weeks ago.

  5. Stinger #145

    Been meaning to post this for a couple weeks now, but never got around to it:
    Effective dates of April 28th, 2019.
    PIA from a 6 to a 5.
    YIP from a 5 to a 4.

  6. Morgan_Freeman_But_Not #146

    The Great Lakes consolidation is also taking effect next month, which will downgrade a bunch in the area.

  7. Cardsmall #147

    Anyone able to tell if SEA is gonna get a 10?

  8. Wizard #148
    Cardsmall said:

    Anyone able to tell if SEA is gonna get a 10?

    They are above the breakpoint but I don't know at what point you get upgraded.

  9. Stinger #149
    boots said:

    They are above the breakpoint but I don't know at what point you get upgraded.

    2. RAISING FACILITY PAY LEVELS
    The following requirements must be met:
    1. The facility is required to make every effort to have one (1) full
    year of complete and accurate data.
    2. The calculated TCI must be at or above the breakpoint for a period
    of three (3) consecutive months, as reported on the last day of the
    month.
    3. The facility manager must provide a twelve (12) month traffic
    projection that demonstrates that the activity will remain at or
    above the breakpoint.
    4. In circumstances where a facility meets all criteria for upgrade,
    EXCEPT that a full year of data does not exist, a validation may
    still take place. If it is determined that the missing data would have
    a de minimis impact on the calculation of the TCI, the validation
    will be conducted as though a full year of data exists.
    5. The information has been validated by the NVT.
    When all of the above requirements have been met, the facility shall be
    upgraded. The upgrade shall be retroactive to the first full pay period after
    the first month the facility was at or above the breakpoint.

  10. GMX #150
    ZP said:

    The Great Lakes consolidation is also taking effect next month, which will downgrade a bunch in the area.

    LAN and FNT from a 6 and 5 to a 3 respectively, MKG & MBS are gonna be like 2s, GRR should probably be a 5. I know 4 is the lowest but shit, JXN did more tower ops in 2018 than everyone else but GRR. o_Oo_Oo_O

  11. Shikaka #151

    There isnt a staffing crisis if you make more contract towers though lol

  12. Ztfoocheck #152

    SEA reached the buffer Feb and just sustained above the buffer for the past 3 months. NATCA rep said we are just waiting for the panel to meet so we can submit the paper work ??

  13. Move78 #153
    Ztfoocheck said:

    SEA reached the buffer Feb and just sustained above the buffer for the past 3 months. NATCA rep said we are just waiting for the panel to meet so we can submit the paper work ??

    The buffer is irrelevant if you're going up. You probably mean you're above the bottom of the 10 breakpoint (green) for 3 months.

  14. corn4ahead #154
    ZP said:

    The Great Lakes consolidation is also taking effect next month, which will downgrade a bunch in the area.

    And should upgrade AZO.

  15. GMX #155

    From a 6 to a 7 initially. They get to have less than a year of data or something as well and when above the breakpoint they will get to upgrade again on a quicker timeline than normal. They "should" be able to go to an 8 after that, they're saying.

  16. Morgan_Freeman_But_Not #156
    GMX said:

    LAN and FNT from a 6 and 5 to a 3 respectively, MKG & MBS are gonna be like 2s, GRR should probably be a 5. I know 4 is the lowest but shit, JXN did more tower ops in 2018 than everyone else but GRR. o_Oo_Oo_O

    LAN will be going to a 4 from what I've been told.

    corn4ahead said:

    And should upgrade AZO.

    Yessir. Haven't heard anything on what they'll get bumped up to.

  17. Phillyman2633 #157
    GMX said:

    LAN and FNT from a 6 and 5 to a 3 respectively

    Level 3? What's that, tabletops?

  18. AlmostEligible #158

    I was at RNO when it went from an 8 to a 5. Losing your radar just crushes a facility level

  19. PushingTin #159

    when are the ARTCC's getting downgraded again? Asking for a friend.

  20. AlmostEligible #160
    PushingTin said:

    when are the ARTCC's getting downgraded again? Asking for a friend.

    ZLA I guess was upgraded from an 11 to a 12 back in the early 2000s from what I've been told. Thats the only thing I've ever heard of a center going up or down.

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