Biden will require federal workers to get the Covid vaccine or submit to testing

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I can’t wait to hear what y’all come up with when it’s fully approved soon
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AIDS is a coronavirus and they haven't had a vaccine.

The definition of vaccine changed so this isn't a vaccine.

The unvaxxed aren't endangering everyone, the vaccine is causing variants-hiw many variants were there before vaccines

Children that have almost no covid deaths need the vaccine for reasons
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We've allowed big pharma to lobby congress, no politicians instead of science dictates who needs a vaccine-they could be giving people saline and both sides would still fight

Both sides of the coin are retarded. Let people die if they want to avoid it.

Mandating THIS vaccine but not a flu shot, or a pneumonia booster, not providing fresh vegetables and a decent workout station. That's employer overreach.
My issue is that I didn't sign the same contract as the military. Do I need to take the new antiviral pills that go alongside of the vaccine?


I think it is a little overblown. I understand providing a safe workplace-we've all seen someone with suck kids come in-are we mandating that it's a medical dq for 14 days self isolation if your kid is sick using your own leave?

If the unvaxxed are a hazard and your kids are unvaxxed can they dq you?
Should your employer mandate your child's health regiment?

Either we get medical doctors and nutrition counseling and health equipment or they can f off telling me what type of care I need.
 
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Not to mention there isn’t a flight doc in the country that is on the same page. All handle the Covid exposure or symptoms differently as seen on here.
This is not true. All the flight docs do the same thing when it comes to exposure. Literally all of them do it the same.
 
This is not true. All the flight docs do the same thing when it comes to exposure. Literally all of them do it the same.
I’ve heard at least three different stories about how things are/were handled differently from people I personally know, believe what you want and carry on.
 
I’ve heard at least three different stories about how things are/were handled differently from people I personally know, believe what you want and carry on.
And I bet you the cases were different, the docs were told different things, you are hearing it differently etc. any fac rep that has been at a facility that has had exposures or confirmed cases has been on the telcons to discusses cleanings or closures all hear the exact same thing from the flight doc.
If I had to guess local management is interpreting things differently as they do all throughout the country. The staggering misunderstanding of the flight surgeon is amazing to me.
 
And I bet you the cases were different, the docs were told different things, you are hearing it differently etc. any fac rep that has been at a facility that has had exposures or confirmed cases has been on the telcons to discusses cleanings or closures all hear the exact same thing from the flight doc.
If I had to guess local management is interpreting things differently as they do all throughout the country. The staggering misunderstanding of the flight surgeon is amazing to me.
We had two people come into contact only at our facility within a couple weeks of each other. No symptoms. Both tested. Both negative. One was out 14 days and the other was told to return to work. And that’s the same flight doc.
 
Literally the only valid remaining argument is that the vaccine still appears to prevent serious disease.
People are vaxxed, catching it, carrying a high viral load, and spreading it.
This thing is going to keep mutating and isn’t going anywhere any time soon.
 
Nope both were a while back but within two weeks of each other.
Either One was vaccinated and one was not. They are sending vaccinated employees back to work immediately. Or whatever they told the same flight surgeon didn’t meet the standards for quarantine and they were approved for work.
It’s not that hard to understand they all have the same standards
 
Either One was vaccinated and one was not. They are sending vaccinated employees back to work immediately. Or whatever they told the same flight surgeon didn’t meet the standards for quarantine and they were approved for work.
It’s not that hard to understand they all have the same standards
Before vaccinations. Man you sure have a lot of faith in the RFS.
 
That’s a big problem with the political landscape today. For example, Generally, I can tell how someone feels about gun control based on how they feel about abortion. With two mutually exclusive things that shouldn’t happen but it does.

Libertarians like me are the outliers of that “generally,” because I believe in expanding both abortion rights and gun rights.
 
It’s the second then. Again, not the difficult to understand. They weren’t within 6 feet for a long enough period.
15 minutes is pretty clear right? They don’t ask if it was an hour. With all the facilities who do different shit with the same .65 and different training programs with the same training order I’m surprised you think the RFS are all following the exact same procedures across the nation.
 
Your argument is very flawed and disingenuous. Someone not wanting to accept the risks of an unapproved treatment is very different from denying it works. Not one person in this planet knows how it will affect people in 5-10 years. There's a reason vaccines take so long to roll out. You can not realistically tell me it won't cause critical health conditions in a decade.

Ever see the commercials on tv "did you or a loved one take X and suffer serious illness or death?"

Guess how those medicines started, by being approved by the FDA. An EUA means jack shit. The companies producing them have zero legal liability for anything that happens to someone who took it, so there is zero risk to them if they out put a bad product. Even more terrifying, a massive number of J+J vaccines were about to expire, so the FDA magically extended the expiration date. I'd love to know how that works. The FDA just waves a wand and suddenly a vaccine has a longer shelf life.

"J+J murders half the planet, still most loved brand on the planet, absolutely zero repercussions"

Also, for the extension of the expiry date. The J+J came out in what, February? So I'd imagine continous potency testing is the reasoning behind extending the expiry to 6 months for a vaccine that came out 6 months ago.

Hey man...that's my thing
 
15 minutes is pretty clear right? They don’t ask if it was an hour. With all the facilities who do different shit with the same .65 and different training programs with the same training order I’m surprised you think the RFS are all following the exact same procedures across the nation.
Have you been questioned by the rfs for Covid? I have. They ask for your opinion after explaining what they are looking for. They respond based on how your answer and what you say. The determination is based on the same criteria. Those two employees answered differently. Not that hard to understand. It’s not different standards.
 
Have you been questioned by the rfs for Covid? I have. They ask for your opinion after explaining what they are looking for. They respond based on how your answer and what you say. The determination is based on the same criteria. Those two employees answered differently. Not that hard to understand. It’s not different standards.
I have twice for Covid.
 
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