Agreed 100 percent. This is the facts the faa/natca don’t care what facility you’re at. They care that planes aren’t crashing so open up as much as you can even if it’s completely dead. Additionally there are plenty of people who are completely content at their facility who do just want fat staffing and see this as a huge win.
Spoken like a true dickhead. Trying to get you and your family home is “applying to the wrong place.” Is this what you NCEPT reps think now?
There was clearly a ton of bias in those metrics they used to deduce each facility’s new target numbers. But you’ll never get people like Move78 to acknowledge that because they’re in a NATCA appointed position at a place like ZDV…
Because the majority of new hires washout, quit, or hardship.
It was posted just a few posts above yours
Oh yeah I meant like its on the message boards sarcastically forgot the /s
Somebody in-house disagrees with you. You should have got off your lazy ass and ran for Rep and then you could’ve been apart of that decision you hate so much.
I mean some facilities have 100 applicants for 1 spot. Most of those applicants will never get it ever in their career. The math doesnt work.
I don’t understand what you’re saying here
They should let the 4-7s vote on a temporary suspension of the National Release Policy. So you can all post that Anikan Skywalker meme when they run a few panels and it’s just 200 12s moving around because every manager in the NAS thinks 4-7 means you fucking suck at air traffic.
Just like before NCEPT
It’s rare someone actually wants to be even close to that facility. Most people go to the first facility with the hope of transferring. Additionally the smaller facilities are usually in shittier areas because just not as many people are flying in. Then there’s the level of it takes forever to train as is and on top of that the experience level is all pretty much new. The second one or 2 hardship/quit/become supervisors. It’s puts transferring to like a minimum 2 year wait if you have enough trainees. If there’s only one or two trainees it could be years before you even have the chance to transfer so it’s kind of a snowball effect where once a couple leave everyone else bails too.
This is better tho. Now they can pay move money and shit instead of everyone just moving for free
Still no demand sheet on the natca website lol this shit is funny
They haven’t posted it anywhere, but it was sent to fac reps a few days ago.
Spouse of controller here and just trying to get an understanding on all this... the looks of this spreadsheet, there are just 6 total centers that will let anybody go then, correct? Also does same "letting go" rules apply for releasing if you are applying for a TMU position elsewhere?
That's what it looks like
As far as being released for a tmu position that isn't super clear at the moment. I'm assuming if the center is able to release on ncept then they should also be able to release for a bid position as well. But if they aren't in a position to release for ncept then it would likely require a deviation and deviations aren't super clear with these changes. Or at least I haven't looked into it. There is some deviation language on the natca.org/ncept page to look at. Have your spouse reach out to the facrep at the facility they are applying for and get in contact with the tmu area rep and introduce themselves and their interest in the job. A simple phone call goes a long way.
Thank you that is helpful.
MLI - level 5 up/down, projected level 6 this year
