Terminal Class pass rate

[Jon R]

10 out of 18 passed.

Yeeee. Any idea how well the class was holding up until that point?

 

[Stinger]

Yeeee. Any idea how well the class was holding up until that point?

I think they lost four between days 1 and 2, and then the other four on day 3 (today).
Heard that the majority (5 or 6) of them were because of a 0 score on a local run.

 

[stankmasta]

Any idea where they went?

 

[Stinger]

Any idea where they went?

I haven't looked at the list recently.

 

[Acquired Taste]

Since all the slots are mandatory now... MMU MMU FLO ACK CPS CAK LBB AGC TOL BGM

 

[Stinger]

Since all the slots are mandatory now... MMU MMU FLO ACK CPS CAK LBB AGC TOL BGM

 

[LA CA]

Since all the slots are mandatory now... MMU MMU FLO ACK CPS CAK LBB AGC TOL BGM

Holy shit. Literally none of those are states I want to, or have even consider living. Fingers crossed for when I get to the academy.

 

[Dolan]

Yeah... my money is on this getting changed once enough people quit after passing their last eval at the bottom of their class...

 

[Maintainvfr]

Yeah... my money is on this getting changed once enough people quit after passing their last eval at the bottom of their class...

As recently as 3 years ago it was only one choice per graduate, and very few people quit then (most of the ones I know of are from when they still had a bunch of mandatory Alaska slots on there.) It's hard to turn down a career that you've worked hard for, especially when you're still stoked to have passed.

 

[twn]

Faa doesnt care where you want to go. They have to place people in these facilities. They will not change hiring practices based on people throwing temper tantrums because they didn't get their dream facility right off the bat.

 

[Jon R]

My class PAs next month. I don't give a rat's rear end where I go (although I prefer not Nantucket!) so that's one layer of stress I'm not bothered with.

 

[DL0509]

Yeah... my money is on this getting changed once enough people quit after passing their last eval at the bottom of their class...

There will always be people to replace those that quit.

 

[JNev]

There will always be people to replace those that quit.

Sure, that's true, but the FAA isn't going to bang its head against the wall if they're only getting 5/18 people to facilities because half the graduates quit. The amount of money spent on 13 people to get zero out of them is nothing to sneeze at. It takes 3-4 months for each class to graduate, thats a lot of per diem, instructor time, and facility maintenance for only 5 people. Sure it'll take awhile but if a ton of people quit they won't have much choice when millions are being wasted and there was absolutely nothing wrong with the previous format

 

[Dolan]

As recently as 3 years ago it was only one choice per graduate, and very few people quit then (most of the ones I know of are from when they still had a bunch of mandatory Alaska slots on there.) It's hard to turn down a career that you've worked hard for, especially when you're still stoked to have passed.

I started in 2012. There has never ever been a time since then where academy classes got 1 choice per graduate.

 

[MJ]

NATCA drove this change.

In 2012 facilities were assigned prior to going to AAC, and it was take it or leave it.

Sure, that's true, but the FAA isn't going to bang its head against the wall if they're only getting 5/18 people to facilities because half the graduates quit. The amount of money spent on 13 people to get zero out of them is nothing to sneeze at. It takes 3-4 months for each class to graduate, thats a lot of per diem, instructor time, and facility maintenance for only 5 people. Sure it'll take awhile but if a ton of people quit they won't have much choice when millions are being wasted and there was absolutely nothing wrong with the previous format

In the open bid 2 yrs ago 30,000 people applied. Good luck playing those odds.

 

[LA CA]

Faa doesnt care where you want to go. They have to place people in these facilities. They will not change hiring practices based on people throwing temper tantrums because they didn't get their dream facility right off the bat.

Without a doubt I have no issue staying with the agency if I end up somewhere I don't like. My wife and I both did that in the Navy. They sent me, a guy from Los Angeles, and my wife, a woman who grew up in Belize, to the small, cold, not diverse town of Oak Harbor, WA. It is what it is, still, fingers crossed.

 

[twn]

Sure, that's true, but the FAA isn't going to bang its head against the wall if they're only getting 5/18 people to facilities because half the graduates quit. The amount of money spent on 13 people to get zero out of them is nothing to sneeze at. It takes 3-4 months for each class to graduate, thats a lot of per diem, instructor time, and facility maintenance for only 5 people. Sure it'll take awhile but if a ton of people quit they won't have much choice when millions are being wasted and there was absolutely nothing wrong with the previous format

FAA isn't in the business to make money. They dont care

 

[Flashy Vectors]

Sure, that's true, but the FAA isn't going to bang its head against the wall if they're only getting 5/18 people to facilities because half the graduates quit. The amount of money spent on 13 people to get zero out of them is nothing to sneeze at. It takes 3-4 months for each class to graduate, thats a lot of per diem, instructor time, and facility maintenance for only 5 people. Sure it'll take awhile but if a ton of people quit they won't have much choice when millions are being wasted and there was absolutely nothing wrong with the previous format

This is a country with a $700 billion defense budget....

 

[Maintainvfr]

I started in 2012. There has never ever been a time since then where academy classes got 1 choice per graduate.

This is not correct. My facility got four trainees from the academy in 2015 that only had one choice per graduate. They picked eastern/central/western so they had a little more control over their destiny, but there were some lists then that were still hot garbage.

 

[Move78]

JNev:

Sure, that's true, but the FAA isn't going to bang its head against the wall if they're only getting 5/18 people to facilities because half the graduates quit. The amount of money spent on 13 people to get zero out of them is nothing to sneeze at. It takes 3-4 months for each class to graduate, thats a lot of per diem, instructor time, and facility maintenance for only 5 people. Sure it'll take awhile but if a ton of people quit they won't have much choice when millions are being wasted and there was absolutely nothing wrong with the previous format

FAA: You won't.