Biden will require federal workers to get the Covid vaccine or submit to testing

[jamisjockey]

The benefit is you are generally very much less likely to get sever illness or die from covid, especially if you have any co morbidity factors or are over the age of 40.
That’s literally it.
Every other reason we were sold was a lie.

 

[CF]

The benefit is you are generally very much less likely to get sever illness or die from covid, especially if you have any co morbidity factors or are over the age of 40.
That’s literally it.
Every other reason we were sold was a lie.

It still provides protection from infection. They aren’t sure how much with delta but it still does provide some.

Anecdotally, my brother who was fully vaxxed in like March was exposed for hours to someone he works with very recently (they drive an ambulance so same truck cab for many hours) and he didn’t get infected. So it’s definitely still possible to avoid infection with the vaccine.

 

[Tater_Toad]

In other news: wood dust is known to the state of California to cause cancer and reproductive harm.

Wood.
Dust.

reee free for fucks sake take this to the shoot the shit thread. Or go home and jerk it.

THE HORSE IS FUCKING DEAD AT THIS POINT YOU'RE JUST DOING CROSSFIT!

 

[TRUMPWONBIDENLOST]

Unvaccinated & Vaccinated can both get sick with Covid 19.

Unvaccinated & Vaccinated can both spread Covid 19.

Unvaccinated & Vaccinated can both die from Covid 19

Unvaccinated & Vaccinated can both survive Covid 19

Unvaccinated & Vaccinated can both end up in a hospital bed due to Covid 19.

Unvaccinated & Vaccinated both live life which is inherently dangerous.

Unvaccinated & Vaccinated can both die in a horrific car accident or die from choking on a slice of pizza.

Unvaccinated & Vaccinated both now have to wear masks…again.

Vaccinated are the ONLY group who can suffer any potential side effects from the Vaccine which are either known or unknown at the moment such as: Death, Seizures, Myocarditis, Guillian-Bare Syndrome ( this one is actually required to be disclosed on the J&J vaccines), kidney failure, liver failure, Anaphylaxis, Bell’s Palsy, Miscarriage, Heart Attack, Pericarditis, Permanent Disability, Thrombocytopenia/Low Platelet, Tinnitus

COVID Vaccine Landing

Unvaccinated, yes can suffer from all the above without the vaccine. So why get vaccinated as there is NO difference?

What if 18 months from now you develop some condition that doctors can’t figure out and you loose your medical, they don’t link it to the vaccine and 18 months prior you where actually one of the healthy, in shape few? Now what?

So then why get the vaccine? For the “greater good?” The greater doesn’t exist, try merging into traffic or exiting a parking lot, the “greater good” is very reluctant to let you in. Or better yet, listen to how controllers talk to one another during coordination or after coordination. A lot of times controller A hangs up and says "man, that controller B is a piece of $hi1 a$$hole, fu&k him/her."

The “greater good?” Some of us treat our bodies like complete $h*t with alcohol abuse, no exercise and terrifying dietary habits. These are your decisions and you are free to make them however, your decisions are fuc7kin% up the “greater good” via increased insurance rates for all of us in the “greater good.”

Heart disease, obesity and diabetes are killing more people than Covid 19 and you are free to create conditions that cause yourself these diseases if you choose. You know and I know there are extremely unhealthy people in ATC.

So again why get the vaccine? What are the benefits?

GREAT FIRST POST! WELCOME!

 

[Oh_Horizon]

>Enters goatfuck of a thread
"I will never take the vaccine. I don't need it. But if you need it, take it."
>Refuses to elaborate further
>Leaves

 

[TRUMPWONBIDENLOST]

Latest information from the White House on COVID Vaccines for Federal Employees.

Coronavirus Roundup: White House Will Be Looking Into the Possibility of More Vaccine Requirements for Feds

There's a lot to keep track of. Here’s today’s list of news updates and stories you may have missed.

www.govexec.com

 

[jamisjockey]

It still provides protection from infection. They aren’t sure how much with delta but it still does provide some.

Anecdotally, my brother who was fully vaxxed in like March was exposed for hours to someone he works with very recently (they drive an ambulance so same truck cab for many hours) and he didn’t get infected. So it’s definitely still possible to avoid infection with the vaccine.

Pre vaccine and when masks weren’t required I worked with 2 different controllers who had symptoms at work and didn’t catch covid so ?‍♂️

 

[CF]

Pre vaccine and when masks weren’t required I worked with 2 different controllers who had symptoms at work and didn’t catch covid so ?‍♂️

On the control floor of a tracon and in the cab of an ambulance with an AC recirculating the air probably isn’t the same thing. They worked over 24 hours together non stop. Also delta wasn’t a thing back then.

 

[TRUMPWONBIDENLOST]

Agencies Struggle to Implement Mass Testing for Unvaccinated Feds

The Biden administration is requiring at least weekly COVID-19 testing for the unvaccinated, but the White House has offered few details about how that will happen.

www.govexec.com

 

[ClearanceClarence]

I would guess the people who actually “attest” to being unvaccinated that would need weekly testing is going to be extremely low to begin with.

 

[CF]

Another one for the scratch pad garbage pile.

 

[GulfCharlie]

Stage One: Refuse to publish in the public interest saying:
1. There are security considerations.
2. The findings could be misinterpreted.
3. You are waiting for the results of a wider and more detailed report which is still in preparation. (If there isn't one, commission it; this gives you even more time).

Stage Two: Discredit the evidence you are not publishing, saying
1. It leaves important questions unanswered.
2. Much of the evidence is inconclusive.
3. The figures are open to other interpretations.
4. Certain findings are contradictory.
5. Some of the main conclusions have been questioned. (If they haven't, question them yourself; then they have).

Stage Three: Undermine the recommendations. Suggested phrases:
1. 'Not really a basis for long term decisions'.
2. 'Not sufficient information on which to base a valid assessment'.
3. 'No reason for any fundamental rethink of existing policy'.
4. 'Broadly speaking, it endorses current practice'.

Stage Four: Discredit the person who produced the report. Explain (off the record) that:
1. He is harbouring a grudge against the Department.
2. He is a publicity seeker.
3. He is trying to get a Knighthood/Chair/Vice Chancellorship.
4. He used to be a consultant to a multinational.
5. He wants to be a consultant to a multinational." "It is only totalitarian governments that suppress facts. In this country we simply take a democratic decision not to publish them."

 

[jamisjockey]

It’s the government. IDGAF who’s in charge, this type of idea is a logistical nightmare.
The federal government is the largest single employer in the country.

 

[32andBelow]

Just get the vaccine

 

[KAB]

Just get the vaccine

What if you can't

 

[CF]

 

[Spoony90]

Idk about trainees but I just got 10 days of EA cause a trainee popped positive

 

[32andBelow]

My thought are that you should get the vaccine

 

[Spoony90]

My thought are that you should get the vaccine

The guy that popped positive was vaccinated. So yeah.... I’ll continue to pass. It obviously doesn’t work. And he’s not the first that I know that got COVId post vaccination. I’ll enjoy the free EA though ??‍♂️

 

[32andBelow]

The guy that popped positive was vaccinated. So yeah.... I’ll continue to pass. It obviously doesn’t work. And he’s not the first that I know that got COVId post vaccination. I’ll enjoy the free EA though ??‍♂️

It obviously doesn’t work. Checks notes. 96% of people in the hospital are unvaccinated. Weird.