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ecnh2017

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I Was wondering how everyone else did their schedules. Particularly shift start times. Manager wants No one left alone in the facility alone at any point. Besides the obvious give us more people I am trying to get creative. we have 14 people With A mid. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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I Was wondering how everyone else did their schedules. Particularly shift start times. Manager wants No one left alone in the facility alone at any point. Besides the obvious give us more people I am trying to get creative. we have 14 people With A mid. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

With 14 people you have two on each set of RDOs, so 10 people working every day. 2 of them get the mid, then 4 morning and 4 swing. You can stagger the arrival times of the days and swings to cover for late arrivals and make breaks easier. So for example:

0600 - 2 day shifts
0700 - other 2 day shifts
1400 - 2 swing shifts
1500 - other 2 swing shifts
2230 - 2 mids

This gives you 4 people in the building from 7am to 10pm every day, with overlaps so you're not holding anyone til the very end of their shift. Obviously you can adjust this if you tend to have more traffic on weekend/evenings or whatever, but this is a good starting place.
 

ecnh2017

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With 14 people you have two on each set of RDOs, so 10 people working every day. 2 of them get the mid, then 4 morning and 4 swing. You can stagger the arrival times of the days and swings to cover for late arrivals and make breaks easier. So for example:

0600 - 2 day shifts
0700 - other 2 day shifts
1400 - 2 swing shifts
1500 - other 2 swing shifts
2230 - 2 mids

This gives you 4 people in the building from 7am to 10pm every day, with overlaps so you're not holding anyone til the very end of their shift. Obviously you can adjust this if you tend to have more traffic on weekend/evenings or whatever, but this is a good starting place.
Thank you our current one is close to this but think she will like this one better than our current. We used to have one alone for 45 min from the late (1430) to the mid( 2215). We currently have 12 cpc's with two somewhat close trainees.
 

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I Was wondering how everyone else did their schedules. Particularly shift start times. Manager wants No one left alone in the facility alone at any point. Besides the obvious give us more people I am trying to get creative. we have 14 people With A mid. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
12 CPCs here too. Here's a snapshot of what ours looks like.

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The first line is an OS and every line not shaded yellow is a CPC. Disregard the yellow shaded lines...when this was published it looked like the trainees would be recalled.

For us, there's only a handful of times Management and NATCA have agreed that there can be 1 person in the facility. It's either been after the mid goes home until the 6 shift shows or from when the 13 goes home and the 15 is alone until the mid. We're currently not doing the 16-00 mid at the end of each PP. Instead, they're just giving out excused absence. There's only been a few times where the 6 goes home between 1415-1430 and there's a slight 15-30 gap till the 15 shows up. It was agreed that could happen but only ween collaboratively scheduled.

This, of course, curtails to our traffic...which is pretty non-existent outside of our morning and early evening cargo pushes.
 

ecnh2017

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12 CPCs here too. Here's a snapshot of what ours looks like.

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The first line is an OS and every line not shaded yellow is a CPC. Disregard the yellow shaded lines...when this was published it looked like the trainees would be recalled.

For us, there's only a handful of times Management and NATCA have agreed that there can be 1 person in the facility. It's either been after the mid goes home until the 6 shift shows or from when the 13 goes home and the 15 is alone until the mid. We're currently not doing the 16-00 mid at the end of each PP. Instead, they're just giving out excused absence. There's only been a few times where the 6 goes home between 1415-1430 and there's a slight 15-30 gap till the 15 shows up. It was agreed that could happen but only ween collaboratively scheduled.

This, of course, curtails to our traffic...which is pretty non-existent outside of our morning and early evening cargo pT

12 CPCs here too. Here's a snapshot of what ours looks like.

View attachment 5015
View attachment 5016

The first line is an OS and every line not shaded yellow is a CPC. Disregard the yellow shaded lines...when this was published it looked like the trainees would be recalled.

For us, there's only a handful of times Management and NATCA have agreed that there can be 1 person in the facility. It's either been after the mid goes home until the 6 shift shows or from when the 13 goes home and the 15 is alone until the mid. We're currently not doing the 16-00 mid at the end of each PP. Instead, they're just giving out excused absence. There's only been a few times where the 6 goes home between 1415-1430 and there's a slight 15-30 gap till the 15 shows up. It was agreed that could happen but only ween collaboratively scheduled.

This, of course, curtails to our traffic...which is pretty non-existent outside of our morning and early evening cargo pushes.
Thank you I appreciate you taking time to answer my question. I think this will be very useful.
 

Ad1234

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With 14 people you have two on each set of RDOs, so 10 people working every day. 2 of them get the mid, then 4 morning and 4 swing. You can stagger the arrival times of the days and swings to cover for late arrivals and make breaks easier. So for example:

0600 - 2 day shifts
0700 - other 2 day shifts
1400 - 2 swing shifts
1500 - other 2 swing shifts
2230 - 2 mids

This gives you 4 people in the building from 7am to 10pm every day, with overlaps so you're not holding anyone til the very end of their shift. Obviously you can adjust this if you tend to have more traffic on weekend/evenings or whatever, but this is a good starting place.
The only thing this suggestion doesn’t account for is leave. With 14 people you pretty much have 1 guaranteed spot a day if that’s how’s you structure your prime time period, that means mandatory overtime everyday just to hit bws and zero opportunities for spot leave. If possible try 3,3 day swing. Gives you spot leave opportunities and not have to worry about mandatory overtime everyday. If that’s your thing great, otherwise Don’t do it.
 

FightingIrish2012

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^ The post above is right, 14 people is not a lot when you have a mid. As the first reply showed it easy to build a schedule and balance it in a perfect world, but once leave comes into play it’s really hard. If that ATM is mandating two in the building at all times even overnight it might be impossible to build a schedule unless they also agree to use OT every time one person is off.
 

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12 CPCs here too. Here's a snapshot of what ours looks like.

View attachment 5015
View attachment 5016

The first line is an OS and every line not shaded yellow is a CPC. Disregard the yellow shaded lines...when this was published it looked like the trainees would be recalled.

For us, there's only a handful of times Management and NATCA have agreed that there can be 1 person in the facility. It's either been after the mid goes home until the 6 shift shows or from when the 13 goes home and the 15 is alone until the mid. We're currently not doing the 16-00 mid at the end of each PP. Instead, they're just giving out excused absence. There's only been a few times where the 6 goes home between 1415-1430 and there's a slight 15-30 gap till the 15 shows up. It was agreed that could happen but only ween collaboratively scheduled.

This, of course, curtails to our traffic...which is pretty non-existent outside of our morning and early evening cargo pushes.
Triple Mids? Am I reading that right? Gross.
 

Jellismate

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Small up down. 12 cpcs, 2 LC only. We do:

2230 2230

0600 0600
0700

1300
1400
1500 1500

Schedule allows 1 person to be on leave with no OT. Always 2 in the building.
 
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