Yeah, I have no idea how this is going to work if there is only a handful of us
Hiring Bid FAA-ATO-20-ALLSRCE-65607
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#5202 Mnichols said:
Yeah, I have no idea how this is going to work if there is only a handful of us
Whenever you finish the process you just go into the pipeline. The bids start mixing. Someone from 17 just got a class date. And you guys might go with people from 21. There’s also people in tier 2 from 18 19 20 that will get classes when they are done.
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#5203 Mnichols said:
Yeah, I have no idea how this is going to work if there is only a handful of us
I’m hoping they open up a new bid in the next couple months ?
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#5204 Johnny said:
I’m hoping they open up a new bid in the next couple months ?
I don't think there's any need to re-apply unless you've been completely removed from this bid (or whatever bid you applied in).
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#5205 robertvmarshall said:
I don't think there's any need to re-apply unless you've been completely removed from this bid (or whatever bid you applied in).
Haven’t had the opportunity yet to apply :/
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#5206 32andBelow said:
Whenever you finish the process you just go into the pipeline. The bids start mixing. Someone from 17 just got a class date. And you guys might go with people from 21. There’s also people in tier 2 from 18 19 20 that will get classes when they are done.
If they open a new bid in the next few months, would it be beneficial to apply again? Just thinking in case I don't score well enough to be considered. Doesn't seem like it would hurt.
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#5207 yegorspencer said:
If they open a new bid in the next few months, would it be beneficial to apply again? Just thinking in case I don't score well enough to be considered. Doesn't seem like it would hurt.
I guess it might be worth it if the bid opens before you get a TOL (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but it shouldn't matter if you get the TOL. Scoring better on the ATSA just increases the likelihood of a TOL. Once you've got that, the ATSA doesn't matter.
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#5208 yegorspencer said:
If they open a new bid in the next few months, would it be beneficial to apply again? Just thinking in case I don't score well enough to be considered. Doesn't seem like it would hurt.
Interesting idea. I don’t know how HR would handle that. I suppose you could.
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#5209 32andBelow said:
Interesting idea. I don’t know how HR would handle that. I suppose you could.
robertvmarshall said:
I guess it might be worth it if the bid opens before you get a TOL (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but it shouldn't matter if you get the TOL. Scoring better on the ATSA just increases the likelihood of a TOL. Once you've got that, the ATSA doesn't matter.
Only thinking from the standpoint of improving the score. Gives you an opportunity to take the test again.
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#5210 yegorspencer said:
Only thinking from the standpoint of improving the score. Gives you an opportunity to take the test again.
You normally can do this. But you can’t normally do it this closely together. Assuming they have a bid this summer.
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#5211 Everyone please keep your fingers crossed for me! I applied last January and aged out February of 2021. This is my last shot!
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#5212 What’s the process of getting to a level 12 TRACON? Like can I get to it regardless of if I get Terminal or Enroute? I honestly don’t know what TRACON is but this facility pays really well and is near family haha
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#5213 yegorspencer said:
If they open a new bid in the next few months, would it be beneficial to apply again? Just thinking in case I don't score well enough to be considered. Doesn't seem like it would hurt.
Your score is valid for 3 years. Of course, if you dont know your results yet, or even what your referral status is, that clouds what the best path is. Lucky for you, I think we are still some time away from a new OTS bid based on comments here and the subreddit. You will know how you did soon.
I applied in June '19, ATSA in October, and got Best Qualified but was not picked up. I reapplied in Jan '20, let my BQ carry over, and got referred. The timing worked for me in this case, but just keep all that in mind.
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#5214 L2 said:
What’s the process of getting to a level 12 TRACON? Like can I get to it regardless of if I get Terminal or Enroute? I honestly don’t know what TRACON is but this facility pays really well and is near family haha
From my understanding, you would start at terminal and *eventually* be able to transfer to TRACON. There might be a way to get there from enroute, but all of the enroute facilities are already level 11/12 so pay wouldn't necessarily be much different.
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#5215 L2 said:
What’s the process of getting to a level 12 TRACON? Like can I get to it regardless of if I get Terminal or Enroute? I honestly don’t know what TRACON is but this facility pays really well and is near family haha
- Get hired.
- Get CPC.
- Put in ERR paperwork to your desired facility.
Note that "work at a specific type of facility" is not on that list.
It used to be the case that transferring within one region and/or service area was easier than transferring outside. It used to be the case that you couldn't jump more than three levels (IIRC) in a single transfer. It used to be the case that having a "radar ticket" was a necessity in order to transfer to a radar facility. None of that is true anymore; all you need is for the staffing numbers to work out both ways: the losing facility has enough people to let you go and the gaining facility has not-enough people to pick you up.
It is true that there is a "ranking list" so the ATM and facrep at the gaining facility have some say in who they want and who they don't, and having a radar ticket might bump you up that list. But the list is only used if there are more people eligible to come than there are slots available for them. If you're trying to get to N90, for example, the ranking list has no meaning because you'll be the only applicant.
And of course all this is based on MOUs between the Agency and NATCA, so it can all change at the drop of a hat.
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#5216 L2 said:
What’s the process of getting to a level 12 TRACON? Like can I get to it regardless of if I get Terminal or Enroute? I honestly don’t know what TRACON is but this facility pays really well and is near family haha
TRACON: Terminal Radar Approach Control
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#5217 Mnichols said:
Are there many of us left who applied back in January of 2020 who just finally got to take their ATSA? I took mine yesterday ??♀️
yes, its quite a few of us
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#5218 Received FOL for 6/16 Terminal. Thats the day online basics starts, not OKC date
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#5219 Coming from another forum, how do you add the dates at the bottom of your posts?
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#5220 Whiskey Tango said:
Coming from another forum, how do you add the dates at the bottom of your posts?
Click on your username/user photo (top right). You should get a menu of options. Click on “Signature” and add your text.