Pushed to the brink? Another NYT article rehashes all the problems that haven't changed since before Reagan and PATCO

[AlmostEligible]

The only thing that will result from this article is more drug and alcohol testing (which is fine). All the ATC problems have been solved.

Very 1st thing I thought of. More testing for sure!!!!

 

[Bandit117]

I don't disagree, but paying us enough that qualified controllers don't quit before retirement would be a start.

100 percent. My point wasn’t that we shouldn’t get paid more, but that hiring is such a sludge fest that they can’t accomplish now, there’s nothing that indicates they will be able to meet higher hiring goals In the future, with a faster timeline

 

[32andBelow]

There are some ATMs under the old system who wouldn’t put out bids, even when the staffing was dire, bc they thought it told their bosses that they couldn’t do their jobs

Whelp you can still manage these people at a regional level. Everyone has a boss. Make there bonuses about meeting the hiring goals

 

[twn]

If staffing hasn't been fixed in the last 10 years, what makes you all think it will be fixed soon?

The status quo will remain

 

[Raise when?]

If staffing hasn't been fixed in the last 10 years, what makes you all think it will be fixed soon?

The status quo will remain

Things will get worse when hordes of us retire at 50 or earlier....by about 2030

 

[ATC Zero]

Things will get worse when hordes of us retire at 50 or earlier....by about 2030

Yes 2030 should be about the 2007 hires and it’s all down hill from there for the next 3 years. Lots of other leaving before 25 years once they reach age 50 too, It’s gonna look very ugly.

 

[twn]

Things will get worse when hordes of us retire at 50 or earlier....by about 2030

Yeah, there really is no incentive to stay at this point. The cycle continues

 

[Raise when?]

Yes 2030 should be about the 2007 hires and it’s all down hill from there for the next 3 years. Lots of other leaving before 25 years once they reach age 50 too, It’s gonna look very ugly.

It’s what happens when people get treated like a statistic. That’s okay. I’ll do my time like a federal inmate, and leave and their problems will be exacerbated 😎

 

[Wizard]

Federal minimum wage is 7.25 cents or about 15k yearly. The average ATC yearly is 120k. Another dumb post by an ignorant individual.

 

[twn]

Remember the same people have essentially been in charge for the last 10 years and nothing has changed.

I seen Paul on the television tonight, continuing his overpaid grief that he has going on.

 

[Geeare27]

Federal minimum wage is 7.25 cents or about 15k yearly. The average ATC yearly is 120k. Another dumb post by an ignorant individual.

Who are you even talking to

 

[ATC Zero]

It’s what happens when people get treated like a statistic. That’s okay. I’ll do my time like a federal inmate, and leave and their problems will be exacerbated 😎

Got that right!

Who are you even talking to

Right and where TF he think he got accurate information from on average pay?

 

[Wizard]

Go down the street and survey 100 people and ask them if they would like to make 120k a year, 6 day work weeks and you spend half your shift on break.

No need to survey. 50,000 applied last bid to do the job you complain about on an Internet forum.

 

[GroundClutter]

Federal minimum wage is 7.25 cents or about 15k yearly. The average ATC yearly is 120k. Another dumb post by an ignorant individual.

Then go work for minimum wage my guy

 

[Wizard]

Then go work for minimum wage my guy

I will be in 6 years according to that guy. No need.

 

[Mike Kilo]

Yeah, there really is no incentive to stay at this point. The cycle continues

Last we checked I think 65% of our facility is eligible at/before 2033 lol. This is going to get very interesting.

 

[Spiralbox21]

Im out at 46 years old, see ya!

 

[ATC Zero]

Im out at 46 years old, see ya!

Out at 48 here! 30 years will be enough!

 

[Raise when?]

Who are you even talking to

🤣🤣 careful, he’s gonna accuse you and everyone who downvoted him of being me again!!

 

[Wizard]

🤣🤣 careful, he’s gonna accuse you and everyone who downvoted him of being me again!!

I was wrong. You aren’t top5fatcat.