Pushed to the brink? Another NYT article rehashes all the problems that haven't changed since before Reagan and PATCO

[Shikaka]

It doesn’t matter if you like it. It’s objectively bad, so likability is irrelevant. My kid might love ice cream for breakfast but it’s my job as the adult to say “no”.

Breakfast ice cream and a corona is the best after a mid. You need to let your inner kid be happy dude.

 

[Phillytroll69]

Breakfast ice cream and a corona is the best after a mid. You need to let your inner kid be happy dude.

Best I can do is an overtime and coronavirus

 

[Logical_Mongoose]

overtime and coronavirus

*In Jim Gordon voice* "Because that's not the hazard pay we deserve, but the one we get right now."

 

[Shikaka]

Best I can do is an overtime and coronavirus

I'll raise you holdover on Jan 6th and a warm Bud Light with lime.

 

[TimShady]

It doesn’t matter if you like it. It’s objectively bad, so likability is irrelevant. My kid might love ice cream for breakfast but it’s my job as the adult to say “no”.

The faa saying schedules are locally negotiated means that there isn’t any healthy food in the house, so they let the kids choose the junk food and then blame the kids when they get fat. Except junk food is the rattler and getting fat means early death.

I don’t really understand this line of thinking. So in your mind the FAA is the adult and we are kids that need to be told what’s good for us? If you argue this way, where else can this be applied?

I get the rattler sucks for some people but there’s no denying some prefer it. We don’t need the FAA to save us from ourselves. We’re adults and can negotiate at the facility level what type of schedule rotation we want to work. If you’re mad most people at your place want the rattler and you don’t, that sucks but try to convince them to make some straight lines next year.

 

[32andBelow]

The rattler isn’t bad if you respect it and sleep before your mid. It’s really bad if you try to avoid that reality.

 

[Raise when?]

I'll raise you holdover on Jan 6th and a warm Bud Light with lime.

Limearitĩa

 

[Spiralbox21]

The rattler isn’t bad if you respect it and sleep before your mid. It’s really bad if you try to avoid that reality.

Yea true but i guess most people have kids n stuff and cant always afford to do that.

 

[32andBelow]

Yea true but i guess most people have kids n stuff and cant always afford to do that.

Yah it’s one of those things where your spouse just has to understand that you are not available during this time frame. But it’s also not possible for all families. The best option is having a variety of lines available in your bid so more people can get exactly what they want.

 

[eltors0]

If you’re mad most people at your place want the rattler and you don’t, that sucks but try to convince them to make some straight lines next year.

There is more of a chance of the FAA meeting its hiring needs than this ever happening. The rattler should never be forced upon anyone in order to make a facility operate and should be prohibited for the sake of safety.

 

[Phillytroll69]

Yea true but i guess most people have kids n stuff and cant always afford to do that.

Well you joined this career knowing you could get placed anywhere. If you CHOOSE to have kids and CHOOSE to bid a mid and CHOOSE to have an hour commute that's on you. Find me one facility where you can't get a 3 bedroom 2.5 bath home within 15 minutes.

 

[32andBelow]

Well you joined this career knowing you could get placed anywhere. If you CHOOSE to have kids and CHOOSE to bid a mid and CHOOSE to have an hour commute that's on you. Find me one facility where you can't get a 3 bedroom 2.5 bath home within 15 minutes.

You can’t avoid mids everywhere

 

[Phillytroll69]

You can’t avoid mids everywhere

Then just transfer we have a thriving robust transfer system

 

[jdatc]

Well you joined this career knowing you could get placed anywhere. If you CHOOSE to have kids and CHOOSE to bid a mid and CHOOSE to have an hour commute that's on you. Find me one facility where you can't get a 3 bedroom 2.5 bath home within 15 minutes.

Like find a house, or actually be able to afford a house like that? Because ZOA and a few others would like to talk to you…..

That said, my best commute was at one facility when I lived 3 miles away. Saved so much time. 20 minutes has been my commute at the last couple facilities for the last decade or so. Outside of that it gets annoying.

I did Queens to ZNY for a year and a half, which was a solid hour with no traffic. Coming home off the mid in traffic was absolutely brutal, and dangerous if you were tired. This was back in the white book days when there was absolutely no recuperative breaks and they were coming in to check on the mids looking for people sleeping.

However I realize I am fortunate enough to have reasonable houses within that distance that I can also afford.

 

[DankVectorz]

Well you joined this career knowing you could get placed anywhere. If you CHOOSE to have kids and CHOOSE to bid a mid and CHOOSE to have an hour commute that's on you. Find me one facility where you can't get a 3 bedroom 2.5 bath home within 15 minutes.

All these years and your username and people still don’t get it

 

[Shikaka]

Limearitĩa

Schlitz malt and room temperature dip spit?

Yea true but i guess most people have kids n stuff and cant always afford to do that.

My wife decided to propagate three of my creampies, I get my pre-mid naps in.

 

[Phillytroll69]

Like find a house, or actually be able to afford a house like that? Because ZOA and a few others would like to talk to you…..

That said, my best commute was at one facility when I lived 3 miles away. Saved so much time. 20 minutes has been my commute at the last couple facilities for the last decade or so. Outside of that it gets annoying.

I did Queens to ZNY for a year and a half, which was a solid hour with no traffic. Coming home off the mid in traffic was absolutely brutal, and dangerous if you were tired. This was back in the white book days when there was absolutely no recuperative breaks and they were coming in to check on the mids looking for people sleeping.

However I realize I am fortunate enough to have reasonable houses within that distance that I can also afford.

Literally has a pool right there right by zoa

711 Old Canyon Rd SPACE 60, Fremont, CA 94536 | Zillow

711 Old Canyon Rd Space 60, Fremont CA, is a Mobile / Manufactured home that contains 1590 sq ft.It contains 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms.This home last sold for $315,000 in January 2024. The Zestimate for this Mobile / Manufactured is $322,200, which has increased by $3,803 in the last 30...

www.zillow.com

All these years and your username and people still don’t get it

Hey I've posted 3 useful things

 

[Logical_Mongoose]

Literally has a pool right there right by zoa

711 Old Canyon Rd SPACE 60, Fremont, CA 94536 | Zillow

711 Old Canyon Rd Space 60, Fremont CA, is a Mobile / Manufactured home that contains 1590 sq ft.It contains 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms.This home last sold for $315,000 in January 2024. The Zestimate for this Mobile / Manufactured is $322,200, which has increased by $3,803 in the last 30...

www.zillow.com

Hey I've posted 3 useful things

That's a 55+ community. "Get yer age waivers in boys! Time to cruise for some of that AARP good-good." 😂

 

[Phillytroll69]

Wait why don't we solicit tips!

 

[CaptainObvious]

MFs runnin 7 man crews and be like “wHy caNT yALl FiguRe yoUr schEdULes?”
Also these are all still rattlers

Who the hell has 7 person crews