Vaccine Time Off Awards

[Bandit117]

They’ve also said a reasonable exemption is sending your ass to LWOP. Thats pretty BS is you can claim a religious exemption without proving you are in a religion or that your religion even believes what you are saying

You must be a supe. I’ve never seen anyone try to cave to management so fast

 

[CF]

So, masks and regular testing don’t work?

Not really for me to decide. The EO says there isn’t a testing option so idk how they’d work that into it. I’m not here to argue with people just trying to point out that getting an exemption may not be the silver bullet people think it is.

 

[32andBelow]

You must be a supe. I’ve never seen anyone try to cave to management so fast

Lol getting vaccinated isn’t caving to management. It’s the smart thing to do. Do you guys ever think that everyone is against you because you have the believe of a very small Minority or the country

 

[Bandit117]

Not really for me to decide. The EO says there isn’t a testing option so idk how they’d work that into it. I’m not here to argue with people just trying to point out that getting an exemption may not be the silver bullet people think it is.

Also, it’s worth noting that EOs can’t override the contract. If they did, natca would have been done as soon as trump signed off on the one they hated.

 

[32andBelow]

Also, it’s worth noting that EOs can’t override the contract. If they did, natca would have been done as soon as trump signed off on the one they hated.

There’s nothing in the contract that would be effected by this EO. Your getting the shot. Might as well just make your appointment.

 

[Shikaka]

I'm not saying it's legal precedent I'm saying looking out for and doing what's right for your fellow countrymen and community is part of the American ideal and it seems to me there's a lot of red blooded true blue American patriots who seem to forget about that for.....reasons.

There was a thing about this back in the day between red blooded true blue Americans about the difference between equality and property or something like that. They still have flags for it.

Cool. By that logic, Let’s go burn down all the McDonald’s, kill every smoker, and publicly execute everyone who sells or consumes alcohol. We could rundown fat people too, but they can’t really run so…

All of those things would have a positive benefit to our collective health, no?

You eating a triple whopper and washing it down with a diet coke doesn't put anyone except yourself on a ventilator. Tobacco and alcohol are along the same categories, except with bigger lobbyists. You aren't free to drink and drive or smoke in a school, you're free to not get the vaccine if you don't want but then you're limited the same in places/things you can do.

You literally provided an equivalence that goes against your idea of freedom to not get the vaccine, in fact both alcohol and tobacco and regulated from a punitive perspective on use far more than having to get the vaccine.

 

[Bandit117]

There’s nothing in the contract that would be effected by this EO. Your getting the shot. Might as well just make your appointment.

Who says I haven’t gotten it? There’s a thing called the law and now matter how gleeful it makes you, or whatever perverse feeling of power it gives you. Individual rights are still the bedrock of this country, if we don’t have those, we have nothing

You eating a triple whopper and washing it down with a diet coke doesn't put anyone except yourself on a ventilator. Tobacco and alcohol are along the same categories, except with bigger lobbyists. You aren't free to drink and drive or smoke in a school, you're free to not get the vaccine if you don't want but then you're limited the same in places/things you can do.

You literally provided an equivalence that goes against your idea of freedom to not get the vaccine, in fact both alcohol and tobacco and regulated from a punitive perspective on use far more than having to get the vaccine.

you could argue that eating such a diet increases your risk of cancer and other poor Heath outcomes, thereby increasing your consumption of resources and your overall drain on society. Alcohol kills people abs alcohol causes people to kill other people. Tobacco often kills its users and can kill via secondary exposure to non-users. Why not just ban all of them, for the greater good of society? Imagine, zero drunk driving deaths. Almost zero lung cancer. How much money would we all save on medical premiums and car insurance? You don’t think it’s fair to impose that on people, even though it’s the governments job to provide for the general welfare?

 

[AB19]

Who says I haven’t gotten it? There’s a thing called the law and now matter how gleeful it makes you, or whatever perverse feeling of power it gives you. Individual rights are still the bedrock of this country, if we don’t have those, we have nothing

you could argue that eating such a diet increases your risk of cancer and other poor Heath outcomes, thereby increasing your consumption of resources and your overall drain on society. Alcohol kills people abs alcohol causes people to kill other people. Tobacco often kills its users and can kill via secondary exposure to non-users. Why not just ban all of them, for the greater good of society? Imagine, zero drunk driving deaths. Almost zero lung cancer. How much money would we all save on medical premiums and car insurance? You don’t think it’s fair to impose that on people, even though it’s the governments job to provide for the general welfare?

If we have free government healthcare I agree

 

[Shikaka]

Who says I haven’t gotten it? There’s a thing called the law and now matter how gleeful it makes you, or whatever perverse feeling of power it gives you. Individual rights are still the bedrock of this country, if we don’t have those, we have nothing

you could argue that eating such a diet increases your risk of cancer and other poor Heath outcomes, thereby increasing your consumption of resources and your overall drain on society. Alcohol kills people abs alcohol causes people to kill other people. Tobacco often kills its users and can kill via secondary exposure to non-users. Why not just ban all of them, for the greater good of society? Imagine, zero drunk driving deaths. Almost zero lung cancer. How much money would we all save on medical premiums and car insurance? You don’t think it’s fair to impose that on people, even though it’s the governments job to provide for the general welfare?

What you're doing is called an appeal to extremes, it's a logical fallacy which attempts to divert from the arguement by take specifics to extreme examples.

Are there not laws regarding alcohol and tobacco which aim to reduce death? Same with food?

Or, is you not being able to drink and drive while smoking in your car with a child strapped into the back without a carseat an infringement of your freedoms or a hazard to others?

The above is what you're asking.

 

[Bandit117]

What you're doing is called an appeal to extremes, it's a logical fallacy which attempts to divert from the arguement by take specifics to extreme examples.

Are there not laws regarding alcohol and tobacco which aim to reduce death? Same with food?

Or, is you not being able to drink and drive while smoking in your car with a child strapped into the back without a carseat an infringement of your freedoms or a hazard to others?

The above is what you're asking.

No, it’s not. For a rule to be just, it must be applicable to all cases. Saying that people need to give up their rights to moral or religious conscience and body autonomy for a generic sense of “the general welfare” is a broad statement. How far out do you draw the line? If you’re going to violate the first and 14th amendments, and title VII, where does it stop? Why shouldn’t McDonald’s be nationalized and closed down, heart disease and obesity kill more than covid?

 

[julietoscar]

Most nurses are dumb as shit with no real education, I’d love to see the vaccination rates in doctors compared to nurses

100%, my mother is a nurse and she is a huge anti vaxxer and also smokes cigs

 

[Shikaka]

No, it’s not. For a rule to be just, it must be applicable to all cases. Saying that people need to give up their rights to moral or religious conscience and body autonomy for a generic sense of “the general welfare” is a broad statement. How far out do you draw the line? If you’re going to violate the first and 14th amendments, and title VII, where does it stop? Why shouldn’t McDonald’s be nationalized and closed down, heart disease and obesity kill more than covid?

The line is drawn when it interferes with the common defense and general welfare of the people, an applicable situation would be for-profit prisons, current revenue generating policing practices, corporate reform and increased taxation. I don't see how a vaccine violates any constitutional right unless the constitutional right is either misunderstood or criminally misinterpreted.

What you're saying is not applicable, again I don't get fat because you eat cake. Though I am subject to subsidizing McDonald's labor costs through my taxes and therefore yes they should be reformed or destroyed.

 

[Uglytaco]

Most nurses are dumb as shit with no real education, I’d love to see the vaccination rates in doctors compared to nurses

Wait. You didn’t know nurses actually go to college for their education? Imagine being this dumb and probably never banged a nurse, or gotten to know one

 

[Uglytaco]

Well luckily I have a spouse who also makes six figures, I have a bachelors degree, I’ve had jobs since I was 16. We have been smart with our money and have no debt at all except our house payment and we basically have everything we would really want and need. America is currently full of jobs so I’m not really worried about exactly what I’d be doing and how much I’d be making.

Somebody mentioned to look into Detection Enforcement Officer and Air Interdiction Agent. They look great

 

[SharkBait]

I like how all these people are saying "get the vaccine to protect other people", but you can still get and spread covid with the even if your triple vaccinated.

 

[Uglytaco]

I like how all these people are saying "get the vaccine to protect other people", but you can still get and spread covid with the even if your triple vaccinated.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Somebody mentioned to look into Detection Enforcement Officer and Air Interdiction Agent. They look great

Still gov jobs that fall under the purview or the verboten nazi communist anti freedom mandate wouldn't they?

 

[Uglytaco]

Shiza. Seien Sie vorsichtig mit den Nazis hinter den Büschen!

 

[Uglytaco]

Still gov jobs that fall under the purview or the verboten nazi communist anti freedom mandate wouldn't they?

Yeah! Protecting your home and your family is also Nazi like, be careful. You might end up being one. They are everywhere, therefore you never know!

 

[Deuce]

Honestly all the articles posted and all the bullshit posted before as I stated really doesn’t matter. At the end of the day we live in a “free” country and the government is taking our rights away from us end of story and it’s bullshit and I don’t see how anybody in their right mind cannot agree that this is wrong regardless of a vaccination status.

Classic move, you're wrong and your sources are bad so none of it matters anymore

Everyone's rights are intact, your employer has the right to mandate it and you have the right to not do it if you don't want to keep the job. Why are you trying to take the employers rights away? Obviously this a false flag operation by antifa, a real capitalist wouldn't do something like that