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[Spaceforce]

Either way. Who wants to train again for months for a couple grand that doesn’t even go into your salary. Not to mention you’ll lose more than the bonus in premiums while your in the labs

Well that’s fucking stupid and I agree with you. A *bonus*

 

[FightingIrish2012]

It blows my mind that the FAA and NATCA only offer a 1% bonus not a raise for changing areas in a center or things like training on new airspace when a facility is consolidated.

Even a 1% raise is an insult but you might be able to convince people with 20 years left in their career it will eventually be worth it.

1% bonus is crazy though, as was said you lose that in differentials and possible OT while training, and in many cases you slide down in seniority.

 

[Move78]

It blows my mind that the FAA and NATCA only offer a 1% bonus not a raise for changing areas in a center or things like training on new airspace when a facility is consolidated.

Even a 1% raise is an insult but you might be able to convince people with 20 years left in their career it will eventually be worth it.

1% bonus is crazy though, as was said you lose that in differentials and possible OT while training, and in many cases you slide down in seniority.

2%! Chaching

 

[Jake Sully]

Get rid of all panels. Direct hire only direct transfers only. What’s the worst that can happen.

Everyone bidding out of the same facility and getting picked up?

 

[32andBelow]

Everyone bidding out of the same facility and getting picked up?

Then that facility better do some direct hiring and pickups of their own

 

[MikeDelta]

Then that facility better do some direct hiring and pickups of their own

Welcome to the 14th Annual NAS Hungar Games!

 

[32andBelow]

Welcome to the 14th Annual NAS Hungar Games!

Welcome to how everyone hires everywhere

 

[CaptainObvious]

What we all arguing about in here

 

[Jake Sully]

Then that facility better do some direct hiring and pickups of their own

It all sounds great but it just can’t work like that. How can anyone say some random level 5s in the middle of nowhere are going to get any applications? And training times in different facilities vary from 1-3+ years so it’s not like facilities can hire ppl to fill spots right away. And if people get a release date 2 years out based on staffing then we’re just about coming full circle. It’s how normal jobs hire sure, but this isn’t really a normal job.

 

[32andBelow]

It all sounds great but it just can’t work like that. How can anyone say some random level 5s in the middle of nowhere are going to get any applications? And training times in different facilities vary from 1-3+ years so it’s not like facilities can hire ppl to fill spots right away. And if people get a release date 2 years out based on staffing then we’re just about coming full circle. It’s how normal jobs hire sure, but this isn’t really a normal job.

Because people actually live in these cities already. The whole exercise of moving someone from Paolo alto to tennesse at the same time you move someone from tennesse to palo
Alto is the problem. You really can’t find 7 community college kids in bumfuckville that want to Make 80k and get a pension? Make the atm do work for once. Plus they get the opportunity to move somewhere bigger and better in a couple years. Nationwide placement hasn’t even been around that long.

 

[Mike Kilo]

Plus they get the opportunity to move somewhere bigger and better in a couple years.

You mean immediately after certification?

 

[FightingIrish2012]

You really can’t find 7 community college kids in bumfuckville that want to Make 80k and get a pension?

This is the one thing that I have been thinking about for a decade and can’t get why they don’t do it. Even in the smallest cities with FAA ATC like Roswell, New Mexico, that city has 48K people and I’m sure thousands more in tiny suburbs near it.

Even if only 15K of the city and surrounding areas are in the 25-55 age group to be working as controllers, you can’t tell me that they can’t find 15 people, 1 in 1,000, who would not like that job getting to stay local, make pretty good money, and retire at 55.

I think it would even work in Nantucket. You only need about 7 to 9 people there. Find 9 rich, trust fund babies who parents will give them a 10K a month allowance their entire like but want them to work a job and not just sit home. I think you can find 9 people who would work that tower making an extra 100K a year and being able to tell their friends and family they are “serving their country” by working a federal job somewhat safety/security related.

 

[32andBelow]

You mean immediately after certification?

So? Then load up the next year graduating class. By our obviously going to have more people with ties to the area stay.

 

[Spaceforce]

Bump. New numbers are going out. Not posted yet, wonder if they’ll use them on this NCEPT or not.

 

[Acquired Taste]

Bump. New numbers are going out. Not posted yet, wonder if they’ll use them on this NCEPT or not.

Source?

 

[jorgeluis161]

Source?

This ^

 

[Spaceforce]

Source?

The inner circle

 

[HammerHead]

The inner circle

Is this a "sometime in February" kind of thing like we've already heard? Or is this within the next week or so?

 

[Phanatical]

There aren’t going to be major changes to the NCEPT panel at this point. Maybe a tweak here or there, but nothing significant.

 

[ChuckNovember]

remind me again was this for all facilities or just tracons and Zs?