2024 NATCA President Election

[Fat Porrey]

Crazy bro. We all have our differences from time to time but he’s legit acting like an enemy to controllers. Shit, if he’s a controller im arguing for him. Although the more posts of his I see, the more it seems he’s some kind of FAA lackey/shill/middle manager 👀

Definitely. Boots is an anti RAZE WEN management shill. Likely a front line at a center and got there through a bid from his Level 5 tower that he ended up at after washing out of a Core 30. He’s mad at NATCA that he couldn’t hack it as a controller and he’s worried that his management ranks might not be included in a RAZE NAU.

It’s a sad sad take that he vents with such anger.




RAZE WEN MVMNT is non discriminatory and wants RAZES 4 ALL. No need to exclude anyone.

 

[GulfCharlie]

I’ll be reaching out to Nick shortly, post legit questions you guys want me to ask (I have already included the raise one)

 

[Top5fatcat]

I’ll be reaching out to Nick shortly, post legit questions you guys want me to ask (I have already included the raise one)

Ask him why he likes banging other dudes wives so much

 

[D-Dub]

I’ll be reaching out to Nick shortly, post legit questions you guys want me to ask (I have already included the raise one)

What are his plans to increase QoL? How does he propose to fix such a massive staffing issue, and what steps does he take to execute said plan? Part of pay, but what about anything over 1.5x for OT past a certain point?

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

I want to know any of these candidates maintained currency. I know we already covered that you don't have to be a good controller to be a good politician, but you would think whoever was most recently a controller would be the most in touch with what is actually going on in the operation and the controller complaints.

 

[jdatc]

I want to know any of these candidates maintained currency. I know we already covered that you don't have to be a good controller to be a good politician, but you would think whoever was most recently a controller would be the most in touch with what is actually going on in the operation and the controller complaints.

I know a guy that plans to run for president that is finishing up his break right now going back into the operation. 😂

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

I know a guy that plans to run for president that is finishing up his break right now going back into the operation. 😂

He better put his phone and smart watch away then. Turn off tune in. 😂

 

[GulfCharlie]

I know a guy that plans to run for president that is finishing up his break right now going back into the operation. 😂

Text me lol, you get the same questions. Did you file?

 

[Fat Porrey]

I’ll be reaching out to Nick shortly, post legit questions you guys want me to ask (I have already included the raise one)

Ask him if he believes in RAZE NAU, then we’d like to know his answer to RAZE HAU?

 

[jdatc]

Text me lol, you get the same questions. Did you file?

No. I have emailed the NATCA National Election Committee and they responded with

The timeline for 2024 election nomination period has not been set

So I was waiting for that one to get my nomination info in. But I am going to run.

He better put his phone and smart watch away then. Turn off tune in. 😂

😂 the watch was in airplane mode!

Clean living, I just got a 30 minute break!

 

[RomeoTangoRT]

While we’re comparing FCT numbers for stick measuring purposes, here are the top 5 FCTs and where they rank in overall tower traffic in parentheses.

Numbers based on a rolling 12 month period so August 2022 - August 2023.

1. (24 / 526) HWO - 330,928
2. (47 / 526) IWA - 247,797
3. (56 / 526) CHD - 219,865
4. (58 / 526) GYR - 213,343
5. (60 / 526) DTO - 199,626

HWO makes $41-42/hr, IWA $36.63, notable tower only facilities +/- 5 of HWO with associated hourly pay:

(20) DCA / lvl 9 / $62.61 - $84.52
(21) LGB / lvl 8 / $60.46 - $81.62
(25) DVT / lvl 9 / $53.71 - $72.51
(27) MSP / lvl 10 / $69.24 - $93.47

I don’t have pay data for the other four FCTs as I’ve never worked there nor personally known anyone who has. (If you work at one of the other four FCTs and would like to shoot me a message to include hourly pay, by all means feel free)

So if we want to cherry-pick data to support our arguments of the disservice that is FCTs making more than FAA facilities, I can cherry-pick and make the complete opposite claim.

There are 18 FAA tower only facilities that make less per hour (new CPC) than HWO. This means there are 125 towers making more than HWO and only 20 [tower only] facilities working more traffic. It could even be argued that there’s not a single FAA facility that makes less than HWO when including benefits packages the FAA offers that FCTs aren’t privy to.

Seeing that Mick is vying for a position that represents the entirety of NATCA controllers, why is he not addressing this pay issue directly? Is it only a pay issue when FCTs make more than our FAA brethren? In an unprecedented move, does NATCA and the FAA have any plan to regain control of facilities like HWO and IWA who, under their current companies, are a danger to the flying public? What is NATCA doing to ensure FCT controllers receive sick leave and/or back pay guaranteed for federal contractors under EO 13706 that the company refuses to give us under the pretense that our CBA was agreed to prior to the EO being effective (our CBA that has been extended 3 times)? What is Mick and NATCA planning to do to address my COLA that is so old, we can’t find documentation at my facility? What is Mick and NATCA doing to address the lack of locality pay for high cost of living areas such as Jackson, WY? What is anyone running for high office doing to address insufficient staffing, ToP, etc? What is anyone running for high office doing to accelerate any of these issues from controllers in the workforce THEY are swearing in to represent?

In solidarity

 

[Top5fatcat]

While we’re comparing FCT numbers for stick measuring purposes, here are the top 5 FCTs and where they rank in overall tower traffic in parentheses.

Numbers based on a rolling 12 month period so August 2022 - August 2023.

1. (24 / 526) HWO - 330,928
2. (47 / 526) IWA - 247,797
3. (56 / 526) CHD - 219,865
4. (58 / 526) GYR - 213,343
5. (60 / 526) DTO - 199,626

HWO makes $41-42/hr, notable tower only facilities +/- 5 of HWO with associated hourly pay:

(20) DCA / lvl 9 / $62.61 - $84.52
(21) LGB / lvl 8 / $60.46 - $81.62
(25) DVT / lvl 9 / $53.71 - $72.51
(27) MSP / lvl 10 / $69.24 - $93.47

I don’t have pay data for the other four FCTs as I’ve never worked there nor personally known anyone who has. (If you work at one of the other four FCTs and would like to shoot me a message to include hourly pay, by all means feel free)

So if we want to cherry-pick data to support our arguments of the disservice that is FCTs making more than FAA facilities, I can cherry-pick and make the complete opposite claim.

There are 18 FAA tower only facilities that make less per hour (new CPC) than HWO. This means there are 125 towers making more than HWO and only 20 [tower only] facilities working more traffic. It could even be argued that there’s not a single FAA facility that makes less than HWO when including benefits packages the FAA offers that FCTs aren’t privy to.

Seeing that Mick is vying for a position that represents the entirety of NATCA controllers, why is he not addressing this pay issue directly? Is it only a pay issue when FCTs make more than our FAA brethren? In an unprecedented move, does NATCA and the FAA have any plan to regain control of facilities like HWO and IWA who, under their current companies, are a danger to the flying public? What is NATCA doing to ensure FCT controllers receive sick leave and/or back pay guaranteed for federal contractors under EO 13706 that the company refuses to give us under the pretense that our CBA was agreed to prior to the EO being effective (our CBA that has been extended 3 times)? What is Mick and NATCA planning to do to address my COLA that is so old, we can’t find documentation at my facility? What is Mick and NATCA doing to address the lack of locality pay for high cost of living areas such as Jackson, WY? What is anyone running for high office doing to address insufficient staffing, ToP, etc? What is anyone running for high office doing to accelerate any of these issues from controllers in the workforce THEY are swearing in to represent?

mic drop

ok Pam.

gimme my theme music

 

[Fat Porrey]

 

[Fat Porrey]

Seeing that Mick is vying for a position that represents the entirety of NATCA controllers, why is he not addressing this pay issue directly? Is it only a pay issue when FCTs make more than our FAA brethren? In an unprecedented move, does NATCA and the FAA have any plan to regain control of facilities like HWO and IWA who, under their current companies, are a danger to the flying public? What is NATCA doing to ensure FCT controllers receive sick leave and/or back pay guaranteed for federal contractors under EO 13706 that the company refuses to give us under the pretense that our CBA was agreed to prior to the EO being effective (our CBA that has been extended 3 times)? What is Mick and NATCA planning to do to address my COLA that is so old, we can’t find documentation at my facility? What is Mick and NATCA doing to address the lack of locality pay for high cost of living areas such as Jackson, WY? What is anyone running for high office doing to address insufficient staffing, ToP, etc? What is anyone running for high office doing to accelerate any of these issues from controllers in the workforce THEY are swearing in to represent?

Why are you asking US?

Brother, my advice would be to ask Mick these questions. I’m sure you’ve already emailed him?

 

[Raise when?]

In the dimly lit control tower of the sprawling metropolis, Sam Delaney juggled a chaotic stream of aircraft, their workload relentless, and their pay unjustly low. Outside, mega corporations thrived in obscene wealth, while the Federal Aviation Administration's condescending briefings masked crippling budget cuts. Constant equipment outages added to the pressure. In the city streets below, drug users sought refuge in chemically induced oblivion, a stark contrast to the crumbling dream of a safer sky Sam desperately clung to. As rampant inflation eroded their family's future, the divide between wealth and despair grew ever wider, threatening to consume them all.

He remembered an old friend, and had a glint of hope…a champion of the Everyman controller…”Raze Wen….”

 

[RB]

While we’re comparing FCT numbers for stick measuring purposes, here are the top 5 FCTs and where they rank in overall tower traffic in parentheses.

Numbers based on a rolling 12 month period so August 2022 - August 2023.

1. (24 / 526) HWO - 330,928
2. (47 / 526) IWA - 247,797
3. (56 / 526) CHD - 219,865
4. (58 / 526) GYR - 213,343
5. (60 / 526) DTO - 199,626

HWO makes $41-42/hr, notable tower only facilities +/- 5 of HWO with associated hourly pay:

(20) DCA / lvl 9 / $62.61 - $84.52
(21) LGB / lvl 8 / $60.46 - $81.62
(25) DVT / lvl 9 / $53.71 - $72.51
(27) MSP / lvl 10 / $69.24 - $93.47

I don’t have pay data for the other four FCTs as I’ve never worked there nor personally known anyone who has. (If you work at one of the other four FCTs and would like to shoot me a message to include hourly pay, by all means feel free)

So if we want to cherry-pick data to support our arguments of the disservice that is FCTs making more than FAA facilities, I can cherry-pick and make the complete opposite claim.

There are 18 FAA tower only facilities that make less per hour (new CPC) than HWO. This means there are 125 towers making more than HWO and only 20 [tower only] facilities working more traffic. It could even be argued that there’s not a single FAA facility that makes less than HWO when including benefits packages the FAA offers that FCTs aren’t privy to.

Seeing that Mick is vying for a position that represents the entirety of NATCA controllers, why is he not addressing this pay issue directly? Is it only a pay issue when FCTs make more than our FAA brethren? In an unprecedented move, does NATCA and the FAA have any plan to regain control of facilities like HWO and IWA who, under their current companies, are a danger to the flying public? What is NATCA doing to ensure FCT controllers receive sick leave and/or back pay guaranteed for federal contractors under EO 13706 that the company refuses to give us under the pretense that our CBA was agreed to prior to the EO being effective (our CBA that has been extended 3 times)? What is Mick and NATCA planning to do to address my COLA that is so old, we can’t find documentation at my facility? What is Mick and NATCA doing to address the lack of locality pay for high cost of living areas such as Jackson, WY? What is anyone running for high office doing to address insufficient staffing, ToP, etc? What is anyone running for high office doing to accelerate any of these issues from controllers in the workforce THEY are swearing in to represent?

In solidarity

I got 31 bucks an hour at CHD a couple years ago lol.

 

[theflyingpig]

Definitely. Boots is an anti RAZE WEN management shill. Likely a front line at a center and got there through a bid from his Level 5 tower that he ended up at after washing out of a Core 30. He’s mad at NATCA that he couldn’t hack it as a controller and he’s worried that his management ranks might not be included in a RAZE NAU.

It’s a sad sad take that he vents with such anger.




RAZE WEN MVMNT is non discriminatory and wants RAZES 4 ALL. No need to exclude anyone.

exclude flms f them they jumped ship for the 15% raise. no razenau for them. they got theirs

 

[BDUB]

While we’re comparing FCT numbers for stick measuring purposes, here are the top 5 FCTs and where they rank in overall tower traffic in parentheses.

Numbers based on a rolling 12 month period so August 2022 - August 2023.

1. (24 / 526) HWO - 330,928
2. (47 / 526) IWA - 247,797
3. (56 / 526) CHD - 219,865
4. (58 / 526) GYR - 213,343
5. (60 / 526) DTO - 199,626

HWO makes $41-42/hr, notable tower only facilities +/- 5 of HWO with associated hourly pay:

(20) DCA / lvl 9 / $62.61 - $84.52
(21) LGB / lvl 8 / $60.46 - $81.62
(25) DVT / lvl 9 / $53.71 - $72.51
(27) MSP / lvl 10 / $69.24 - $93.47

I don’t have pay data for the other four FCTs as I’ve never worked there nor personally known anyone who has. (If you work at one of the other four FCTs and would like to shoot me a message to include hourly pay, by all means feel free)

So if we want to cherry-pick data to support our arguments of the disservice that is FCTs making more than FAA facilities, I can cherry-pick and make the complete opposite claim.

There are 18 FAA tower only facilities that make less per hour (new CPC) than HWO. This means there are 125 towers making more than HWO and only 20 [tower only] facilities working more traffic. It could even be argued that there’s not a single FAA facility that makes less than HWO when including benefits packages the FAA offers that FCTs aren’t privy to.

Seeing that Mick is vying for a position that represents the entirety of NATCA controllers, why is he not addressing this pay issue directly? Is it only a pay issue when FCTs make more than our FAA brethren? In an unprecedented move, does NATCA and the FAA have any plan to regain control of facilities like HWO and IWA who, under their current companies, are a danger to the flying public? What is NATCA doing to ensure FCT controllers receive sick leave and/or back pay guaranteed for federal contractors under EO 13706 that the company refuses to give us under the pretense that our CBA was agreed to prior to the EO being effective (our CBA that has been extended 3 times)? What is Mick and NATCA planning to do to address my COLA that is so old, we can’t find documentation at my facility? What is Mick and NATCA doing to address the lack of locality pay for high cost of living areas such as Jackson, WY? What is anyone running for high office doing to address insufficient staffing, ToP, etc? What is anyone running for high office doing to accelerate any of these issues from controllers in the workforce THEY are swearing in to represent?

In solidarity

KIWA $36.63

 

[Top5fatcat]

Im so confident in my RAZE WEN TENDIES I just bought a Big Lebowski painting for $750! I am 10 Octoberfests in and will probably be investing in more items in anticipation of my premium pays, tiered OT, and various other bonuses. We are not going to let the FCT's or DOD take our money! Hold the line just a little bit longer and RIch/Mick will deliver. Its always darkest before the dawn...

 

[D-Dub]

ok Pam.

gimme my theme music

Clearly you're dense since neither of these facilities are even listed, as they aren't comparable. However, that's okay, reading clearly isn't your strong suit.

Here, I'll put something in emojis that is easier for you to understand.

🦍👥️💪