2024 NATCA President Election

[ManBearPig]

Most likely from my limited research, a solid maybe. A lot of their (constant contact) metrics, such as opening and delivery often rely on a imbedded unique url inage in each email, thus when you open it, it polls the server and they know that [email protected] opened it.

Now as for the survey, maybe it has the same and ties to that in a like manner. Maybe it logs and compares ip addresses from your email and the one you completed the survey from.

This is just conjecture, but if they are willing to use NATCA resources (Michaud / NATCA IT) to dig up dirt on Jamal, why wouldn’t they try and maintain a list of who wouldn’t vote for them.

I’ll put away my tinfoil hat, but, then again, they got nothing on me!

Maybe send them ([email protected]) an email and let them know their physical address is out of compliance. They love to hear from members!

I hear [email protected] is shopping for an extended auto warranty.

 

[32andBelow]

Most likely from my limited research, a solid maybe. A lot of their (constant contact) metrics, such as opening and delivery often rely on a imbedded unique url inage in each email, thus when you open it, it polls the server and they know that [email protected] opened it.

Now as for the survey, maybe it has the same and ties to that in a like manner. Maybe it logs and compares ip addresses from your email and the one you completed the survey from.

This is just conjecture, but if they are willing to use NATCA resources (Michaud / NATCA IT) to dig up dirt on Jamal, why wouldn’t they try and maintain a list of who wouldn’t vote for them.

I’ll put away my tinfoil hat, but, then again, they got nothing on me!

Maybe send them ([email protected]) an email and let them know their physical address is out of compliance. They love to hear from members!

It’s nice not being an article 114 scammer cus you can just tell them what you want and you have nothing to worry about

 

[Wizard]

I’m sure boots thinks it was the fake trolls who sent the email too

Weird, the fake trolls are gone.

 

[Spaceforce]

 

[Phanatical]

We all knew anyway. They got their hand caught in the cookie jar.

 

[GulfCharlie]

People struggling for power under the guise of "understanding the issues." Comical.

 

[CaptainObvious]

JD get that campaign official. They could’ve polled issues without polling for how hard they actually needed to work to win

 

[jdatc]

JD get that campaign official. They could’ve polled issues without polling for how hard they actually needed to work to win

Oh, I will. On January 1st per that other doc I posted I can get access to emails and other items. Then I’ll get nominated as soon as it opens.

Anyone want to run for EVP with me? I’ll nominate you!

Offer does not apply if you are currently an ARVP, full time article 114 person, or on the national executive board.

 

[pedaNTIc]

So you send out a ‘poll’ from a blind, anonymous account (that anyone with a pulse figured out), using ill-gotten data to do so, and there’s no presumption of anonymity once you reply - why do we have secret ballot? Doesn’t this undermine that completely?

How fucking inept are these guys?

I know there’s that adage that ‘elections have consequences’, I feel that’s wrong especially if it’s a divided electorate and the numbers are close, and the Zilonis campaign of years past (and how all his supporters were wrongly marginalized post-election) is an example of this in our profession…so do you really think I’m going to reply to something out-of-the-blue, with zero idea how that data will be processed or retained, in the chance they do win? Yeah fuck that.

This is like jr high shit, passing a note to a girl asking ‘do you like me?’ Come the fuck on.

 

[RegisteredUser]

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Fucking clowns, all of them. Drain the swamp.

 

[BCHOOSIER]

This guy has served as an ARVP, RVP, and currently NATCA president but he still doesn't know what's important to members. You can't make this shit up.

 

[kombucha23]

Really instills confidence in the membership when you have to apologize for your cluelessness. I’m really losing interest in giving the union my money every check.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

They took the survey down. I was just about to do it. I don’t care if they ID me or steal my data, I wanted to use it to express that pay is the memberships main concern since apparently they think it might be NTI.

 

[EightTwoSierra]

They took the survey down. I was just about to do it. I don’t care if they ID me or steal my data, I wanted to use it to express that pay is the memberships main concern since apparently they think it might be NTI.

I replied with voting for other but put pay #1. It’s not hard!!!! More pay. More time off. That’s gonna cover 90% of our wants. You get more of both of those consistently and you will be re-elected forever.

 

[Raul Pinaldi]

They took the survey down. I was just about to do it. I don’t care if they ID me or steal my data, I wanted to use it to express that pay is the memberships main concern since apparently they think it might be NTI.

Too bad they took it down. They got caught which is hilarious, but I really hoped a lot of people would have checked other for both and showed that pay and compensation is our #1 concern. Oh and getting rid of full time 114 gigs. #makethemstaycurrent

 

[Spaceforce]

Too bad they took it down. They got caught which is hilarious, but I really hoped a lot of people would have checked other for both and showed that pay and compensation is our #1 concern. Oh and getting rid of full time 114 gigs. #makethemstaycurrent

I think the FTC fine is the reason why.

 

[Raul Pinaldi]

I think the FTC fine is the reason why.

I’m sure. This organization needs a wake up call bad though.

 

[32andBelow]

Too bad they took it down. They got caught which is hilarious, but I really hoped a lot of people would have checked other for both and showed that pay and compensation is our #1 concern. Oh and getting rid of full time 114 gigs. #makethemstaycurrent

I did. Idk why people were afraid to fill it out.

 

[But_I_Had_Visual]

I did. Idk why people were afraid to fill it out.

I would have signed my name and NATCA member number if they had asked.

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

Maybe Paul and Trish still have some gofundme money left over to hel

So you send out a ‘poll’ from a blind, anonymous account (that anyone with a pulse figured out), using ill-gotten data to do so, and there’s no presumption of anonymity once you reply - why do we have secret ballot? Doesn’t this undermine that completely?

How fucking inept are these guys?

I know there’s that adage that ‘elections have consequences’, I feel that’s wrong especially if it’s a divided electorate and the numbers are close, and the Zilonis campaign of years past (and how all his supporters were wrongly marginalized post-election) is an example of this in our profession…so do you really think I’m going to reply to something out-of-the-blue, with zero idea how that data will be processed or retained, in the chance they do win? Yeah fuck that.

This is like jr high shit, passing a note to a girl asking ‘do you like me?’ Come the fuck on.

I replied and I couldn’t care less if it wasn’t anonymous. I think our national union is out of touch with the day-to-day on the floor and I’ll take any chance I can get to let them know that.