2024 NATCA President Election

[ClearanceClarence]

I tried digging, apparently can’t get rid of a mod on Reddit, so just stuck with the censorship

Yeah only real solution is for people to migrate to a new sub, but that’s tough to accomplish. Especially with a half dozen people create alternates all at once.

 

[Move78]

I'm merely pointing out if there were a proposal, the entire NEB is feckless and can't be relied at all to serve the interests of rank and file. We literally need to vote out everyone because it'll just be more of the same.

But there wasn’t. There was nothing to vote on

 

[Raise when?]

Thanks for typing that all out.

Rich and Mick are full of shit, and blatantly lying to the membership.

I don’t trust those goons

 

[hawks12thman]

so we got a dude that lies to us
and we got a dude that punches us

Im voting for bro #3

 

[CaptainObvious]

so we got a dude that lies to us
and we got a dude that punches us

Im voting for bro #3

4 dudes that lie to you, one will just also punch you.

Dude #5 is a wild card

 

[GulfCharlie]

4 dudes that lie to you, one will just also punch you.

Dude #5 is a wild card

Non-establishment imho

 

[Phanatical]

4 dudes that lie to you, one will just also punch you.

Dude #5 is a wild card

Dude #5’s only appreciable skill he’s shown me is he’s kinda good with generating memey AI art and gliding in a wingsuit. That’s… about it.

 

[32andBelow]

So what has nick accomplished to getting us more pay. Cus as of now a phantom upgrade workgroup is the most I’ve heard any of them do 🤣

 

[Phanatical]

So what has nick accomplished to getting us more pay. Cus as of now a phantom upgrade workgroup is the most I’ve heard any of them do 🤣

Nick addressed in his video that he is helping lead a case which will be going to arbitration to address the 13 year lapse in ZHU pay tied to domestic overwater operations vs. oceanic operations.

 

[ChuckNovember]

Dude #5’s only appreciable skill he’s shown me is he’s kinda good with generating memey AI and gliding in a wingsuit. That’s… about it.

TBF pretty sick skills.

 

[MJ]

In solidarity for ourselves…..brother

Every video:

Probably more substance in the hulksters speech though

 

[Move78]

So what has nick accomplished to getting us more pay. Cus as of now a phantom upgrade workgroup is the most I’ve heard any of them do 🤣

RVPs don’t negotiate pay

 

[MJ]

Well the Reddit mods struck again, are we free to discuss this here or is it going to get deleted

This site has nothing to do with reddit, and your post is 77 pages in sooo.

 

[GulfCharlie]

Well the Reddit mods struck again, are we free to discuss this here or is it going to get deleted

r/atc2 is apparently open, go for it. Seriously though MJ does not just delete things like reddit "campaign hits."

 

[DeltaNiner]

Putting the actual issue of the center upgrades aside, the fact that the workforce has collectively had to spend DAYS siphoning through information just to find out who in national leadership is lying speaks volumes. At the end of the day, this is NOT how representation or leadership should be happening. I for one don’t trust a single one of these establishment fucks. Any one of them would lie, cheat, or steal to try and maintain or gain power. The ONLY hope NATCA has is Justin Dailey. If either Santa or Nick wins, NATCA will be gone before the end of the decade.

Amen dude. And I actually emailed some of them this. It’s sickening that membership has to pry through information to try and put a truth together. No matter what side you’re on, this is just ugly and gross. If one was on the fence on staying in this is an easy way to push to the other side.

 

[Phillyman2633]

4 dudes that lie to you, one will just also punch you.

Dude #5 is a wild card

 

[RegisteredUser]

Dude #5’s only appreciable skill he’s shown me is he’s kinda good with generating memey AI and gliding in a wingsuit. That’s… about it.

And #1-4 have already shown us they are useless as union leaders/representatives and out of touch, to say the least.

 

[ehmeye]

Nick addressed in his video that he is helping lead a case which will be going to arbitration to address the 13 year lapse in ZHU pay tied to domestic overwater operations vs. oceanic operations.

2nd time in arbitration, this grievance was filed in 2008. Nick isn’t leading shit, he’s patiently waiting while nothing ever gets done about this grievance along with everyone “leading” this bullshit for the last 16 years. The FAA has been stringing NATCA along for almost two decades.

 

[HurryUpandWait]

ZHU Facrep’s Email

“On February 1st, an update from the New England Region (NNE) RVP Mick Devine referenced the most recent NEB meeting and the possibility of five (5) En Route centers being upgraded. The update quickly spread across message boards and social media and it was implied ZHU is one of the facilities referenced.

I spent the better part of the last two days talking with NATCA’s President Rich Santa, Executive Vice President Andrew LeBovidge, NSW Regional Vice President Nick Daniels, multiple other members who were at the NEB meeting and the Facreps of the other four referenced facilities, in order to gather all the facts prior to addressing ZHU’s membership.

The NNE update is full of mistruths and misinformation which I believe were designed solely to score political points for one or two candidates for National Office while insinuating another candidate did not support this effort.

I was assured by NATCA’s President Rich Santa that NNE RVP Mick Devine would be addressing and correcting his ‘mistake’ and misinformation. Rich also confirmed, despite what the NNE update implied, no vote was ever taken on the matter and no member of the NEB ever spoke out against or would not support upgrading facilities. At the latest NEB meeting Nick Daniels said, “I want it noted for the record, on behalf of all the members of the Southwest Region which I represent, we support any and all upgrades to our facilities, particularly for Albuquerque and Houston Centers.”

Hell, the agency can agree through the proper process to upgrade ZHU today, tomorrow, or the next day through our ongoing dispute. Instead, they are fighting NATCA tooth and nail to avoid a ZHU upgrade.”


I have no doubt that Mick’s “mistake” was intentional. Complete chaos agent. I say this as someone who is NOT a Nick/Jamaal stan

More statement regarding Mick's misinformation campaign

Just lost the election for them.

The timing of all this was odd as well. Mick had been putting out campaign videos every couple days pushing his dumb low level facilities vs GS pay scale platform. Then he goes dark for several weeks before dumping this bomb out of the blue. Almost seems like he realized he was shitting the bed with his campaign and decided to change tactics to a chaos strategy, throwing everyone but himself under the bus. He should be forced to resign.

Low level facilities matter too

I don’t know if we can call either side as total truth. But at least these people are nervous and finally talking about stuff. What’s more scary is how any discussion about this has been completely censored from Reddit. Jamal even used the word Reddit in the video.

Cheers to the victory for .65!

4 dudes that lie to you, one will just also punch you.

Dude #5 is a wild card

Nick addressed in his video that he is helping lead a case which will be going to arbitration to address the 13 year lapse in ZHU pay tied to domestic overwater operations vs. oceanic operations.

This isn’t good enough for 32. He thinks that you can ask the FAA and get it the same day. There is no in between for him

 

[ClearanceClarence]

Low level facilities matter too

Never said they don’t. But that’s literally all Mick had been talking about with his campaign for weeks. Then he didn’t put out any content for 3-4 weeks before lighting the fuse on all the bullshit from this week. I doubt he ultimately even cares about low level facilities (or anyone besides himself for that matter). It was likely a political tactic from day 1: if he thought he could secure every vote from level 4-6 controllers in the NAS, it’d be enough for him to win.