2024 NATCA President Election

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That's the funny thing, "women" and "men" are terms that have been made up to define social behavior and interactions. If someone feels like a woman then they are a woman, that's how gender works. Of course gender is very closely related to the concept of biological sex but they aren't the same thing. Ask an actual biologist; there is much more to biological sex than just "XX or XY."

Again, I understand that we like to think of things in a binary. We like to have clear yes-or-no answers; it makes us feel safe and secure. But that just isn't how the real world works. Look at our job—you'd think it would be easy enough, right? "Here's the book of rules, here's what you did in this situation, did you break a rule or was it legal." You know how good controllers are at turning that into a gray area a mile wide. Take that and apply it to a human full of cells and DNA and hormones, and put the human in world with eight billion other humans. Clear binaries just don't exist.


Someone's weight can be measured and compared against a standard. Someone's chromosomes can also be objectively measured, though as I said there are more options than XX and XY. But gender is not the same as chromosomes; you can't measure gender. You can only ask someone how they feel, and look at how they behave, and compare that to other people in society.

Not that I expect you to accept my logic but you asked and that's my answer.
Well it’s the wrong answer? Lol

I can’t believe people actually believe genders as a conceptual way of thinking.

I do agree that not everything is a black/white, yes/no answer. But gender is not up for arguing. You are biologically a woman or you are biologically a man.

There is no argument here. Crazy.
 
You are biologically a woman or you are biologically a man.
Since you're such an expert, I guess you can spend the rest of this afternoon correcting these wikipedia articles?
Androgen insensitivity syndrome
XX male syndrome
XYY syndrome
Klinefelter syndrome
46,XX/46,XY

Anyway, as I said, I understand where you're coming from. It's a normal human reaction to be scared of things which are abnormal, that's evolution speaking. I'm trying to point out that you don't have to be scared of these people if you bother to research them. "Knowledge is power" and all that.

If you prefer to stay ignorant and blanketed that's certainly your choice but it doesn't seem fair to base your political rhetoric or votes on something you choose to remain ignorant about.
 
Damn that’s crazy, did Nick or Rich say something about this?
They are people. As humans, they are accepted. Love the person, hate the sin. Conservatives want what's best for all brothers and sisters in Christ. (I want what's best for you). However, there is no amount of time that can pass which will convince people who value truth that women can actually be men/men can actually be women. So while your intended virtue and compassion are commendable, they are unfortunately based around a lie.

If trans people truly ARE the gender they claim, then the world needs an explanation as to why you won't validate a 90lb emaciated bulimic person as "fat" when they claim they are overweight.

...how about that BBQ at ZID though, eh?

That's the funny thing, "women" and "men" are terms that have been made up to define social behavior and interactions. If someone feels like a woman then they are a woman, that's how gender works. Of course gender is very closely related to the concept of biological sex but they aren't the same thing. Ask an actual biologist; there is much more to biological sex than just "XX or XY."

Again, I understand that we like to think of things in a binary. We like to have clear yes-or-no answers; it makes us feel safe and secure. But that just isn't how the real world works. Look at our job—you'd think it would be easy enough, right? "Here's the book of rules, here's what you did in this situation, did you break a rule or was it legal." You know how good controllers are at turning that into a gray area a mile wide. Take that and apply it to a human full of cells and DNA and hormones, and put the human in world with eight billion other humans. Clear binaries just don't exist.


Someone's weight can be measured and compared against a standard. Someone's chromosomes can also be objectively measured, though as I said there are more options than XX and XY. But gender is not the same as chromosomes; you can't measure gender. You can only ask someone how they feel, and look at how they behave, and compare that to other people in society.

Not that I expect you to accept my logic but you asked and that's my answer.

Well it’s the wrong answer? Lol

I can’t believe people actually believe genders as a conceptual way of thinking.

I do agree that not everything is a black/white, yes/no answer. But gender is not up for arguing. You are biologically a woman or you are biologically a man.

There is no argument here. Crazy.

Since you're such an expert, I guess you can spend the rest of this afternoon correcting these wikipedia articles?
Androgen insensitivity syndrome
XX male syndrome
XYY syndrome
Klinefelter syndrome
46,XX/46,XY

Anyway, as I said, I understand where you're coming from. It's a normal human reaction to be scared of things which are abnormal, that's evolution speaking. I'm trying to point out that you don't have to be scared of these people if you bother to research them. "Knowledge is power" and all that.

If you prefer to stay ignorant and blanketed that's certainly your choice but it doesn't seem fair to base your political rhetoric or votes on something you choose to remain ignorant about.
No, they fucking didn’t.
 
But gender is not the same as chromosomes; you can't measure gender. You can only ask someone how they feel, and look at how they behave, and compare that to other people in society.
Since you're such an expert, I guess you can spend the rest of this afternoon correcting these wikipedia articles?
Androgen insensitivity syndrome
XX male syndrome
XYY syndrome
Klinefelter syndrome
46,XX/46,XY

So which one is it? Is it a feeling or is it a chromosomal anomaly? The sad thing is… You can’t even stay consistent in your own bullshit
 
They are people. As humans, they are accepted. Love the person, hate the sin. Conservatives want what's best for all brothers and sisters in Christ. (I want what's best for you). However, there is no amount of time that can pass which will convince people who value truth that women can actually be men/men can actually be women. So while your intended virtue and compassion are commendable, they are unfortunately based around a lie.

If trans people truly ARE the gender they claim, then the world needs an explanation as to why you won't validate a 90lb emaciated bulimic person as "fat" when they claim they are overweight.

...how about that BBQ at ZID though, eh?
You believe in God don't tell me about believing in truth lmao. I'm not at ZID chuckle nuts it's pretty obvious what facility I'm at🤣
 
Why would I hate someone who believes something without factual basis. Feel sorry for you that your whole life is a lie, find truth.

I’m constantly pursuing the truth my dude and it has led me down this path of faith. It’s a beautiful thing. I don’t feel sorry for you. I have hope for you.
 
Shania Twain said it best with, "man I feel like a woman."
Notice how Shania DIDNT say , "man. I feel like a they them cis man or woman."

If that doesn't prove my point, nothing will.
Was the virus made in a lab? Well does a duck with a boner drag weeds?

Its like my great grand pappy used to say, "All the window licking in the world won't put rust back on the cat if Jeremiah don't get his shit together." In these trying times, I try to remember that.
 
Then vote for an actual Christian and not one of the biggest sinners ever

All Christians are sinners. 100% of us. So when you say “an actual Christian not one of the biggest sinners ever,” that doesn’t make sense whatsoever.

It’s impossible to live a life free from sin. It’s what we do in the wake of that sin that matters…. And that is between an individual and God. I’m not sure how you think you are privy to the quality of somebody else’s relationship with Christ to determine if they are “an actual Christian.”

Sounds like you have an ongoing battle with smugness. Good luck with that.
 
All drivers break traffic laws.

But I wouldn't let a person with a negligent homicide and 3 DUIs drive my kid back from school. Saying "sin" is all the same is a really silly way to create guilt amongst good honest people and to enable narcissists when they are confronted with their unacceptable behavior.
 
They are people. As humans, they are accepted. Love the person, hate the sin. Conservatives want what's best for all brothers and sisters in Christ. (I want what's best for you). However, there is no amount of time that can pass which will convince people who value truth that women can actually be men/men can actually be women. So while your intended virtue and compassion are commendable, they are unfortunately based around a lie.

If trans people truly ARE the gender they claim, then the world needs an explanation as to why you won't validate a 90lb emaciated bulimic person as "fat" when they claim they are overweight.

...how about that BBQ at ZID though, eh?
To answer your question a bit more biblically. The answer would be is that their earthly identity has been corrupted and your job is to love them. Also here's a short article on the conservative you want to vote for.


Read all that? Now read revelation 13, the part about the first beast getting a head wound?
 
Well it’s the wrong answer? Lol

I can’t believe people actually believe genders as a conceptual way of thinking.

I do agree that not everything is a black/white, yes/no answer. But gender is not up for arguing. You are biologically a woman or you are biologically a man.

There is no argument here. Crazy.
Absolutely untrue also, people are born with mixed stuff all the time.
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All Christians are sinners. 100% of us. So when you say “an actual Christian not one of the biggest sinners ever,” that doesn’t make sense whatsoever.

It’s impossible to live a life free from sin. It’s what we do in the wake of that sin that matters…. And that is between an individual and God. I’m not sure how you think you are privy to the quality of somebody else’s relationship with Christ to determine if they are “an actual Christian.”

Sounds like you have an ongoing battle with smugness. Good luck with that.
Yah but most of us didn’t cheat on our wife with a porn star then pay her off. Or mock a disabled reporter. Or incite a riot on the capital.

Biden actually goes to church. When’s the last time trump went?
 
Yah but most of us didn’t cheat on our wife with a porn star then pay her off. Or mock a disabled reporter. Or incite a riot on the capital.

Biden actually goes to church. When’s the last time trump went?

It doesn’t matter what anybody says. You’re going to believe what you believe, lie or not. I just hope you’re preparing to confront the inevitable discomfort you’ll be facing when Trump wins in November. I’m seriously worried for people whose entire identity revolves around hatred for somebody else.

Good luck.
 
It doesn’t matter what anybody says. You’re going to believe what you believe, lie or not. I just hope you’re preparing to confront the inevitable discomfort you’ll be facing when Trump wins in November. I’m seriously worried for people whose entire identity revolves around hatred for somebody else.

Good luck.
We already lived through Trump. There was riots, a plague and he tried to kill his VP
 
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