maybe this should be the vfr tower i work at . sounds nice.I don't think the multi hour commute is an option. Looks like they have ferries to the island, but they don't run early AM or late PM
maybe this should be the vfr tower i work at . sounds nice.I don't think the multi hour commute is an option. Looks like they have ferries to the island, but they don't run early AM or late PM
Don’t you want it to be bad now so it can be better later?In my opinion These options have been great The last couple of classes, I hope that continues. I think it was 2 months ago or so where the class was Given towers that were all BFE frozen tundras and then Monroe. So it definitely has improved which gives me hope ??
it's all based on the KSN staffing sheets anyways (like the excerpt Shikaka posted). Though trying to predict it or decide how/when they'll skip somewhere is more voodoo than anything.In my opinion These options have been great The last couple of classes, I hope that continues. I think it was 2 months ago or so where the class was Given towers that were all BFE frozen tundras and then Monroe. So it definitely has improved which gives me hope ??
Valid point but there’s so many towers out there that’d it be impossible for all the grads to get them before I get assigned. I’m more just happy seeing that it’s certainly possible to have good lists. It was looking rough awhile backDon’t you want it to be bad now so it can be better later?
Right. I just like seeing consistent lists of towers I’d like to be at. It gives me hope so I’ll take it.it's all based on the KSN staffing sheets anyways (like the excerpt Shikaka posted). Though trying to predict it or decide how/when they'll skip somewhere is more voodoo than anything.
it's false hope, but ok.Right. I just like seeing consistent lists of towers I’d like to be at. It gives me hope so I’ll take it.
Yeah you don't want to see your facilities offered to other classes, more than likely that means it won't be available whenever you get to that point in the process.Right. I just like seeing consistent lists of towers I’d like to be at. It gives me hope so I’ll take it.
it also doesn't mean that. It literally doesn't mean anything. The only way to semi-predict what's coming is by looking at the placement lists and even then sometimes they manipulate and skip places for whatever reason. Looking at staffing sheets/lists before it's your official list are basically useless and a giant waste of time.more than likely that means it won't be available whenever you get to that point in the process.
Each tower is going to be completely different. Best option would be to ask several questions you're curious about. I could tell you I came to mine with 4 others and only 2 of us certified, and 10 have arrived since we have and that's only given us 3 CPCs, but it doesn't really tell you anything other than the numbers.Any current controllers have any stories about their first facilities? There are so many possible low level towers, I'm curious what some of them are like, not to mention the surrounding areas.
Bold of you to assume people managed to get out of their low-level tower "first" facilitiesAny current controllers have any stories about their first facilities? There are so many possible low level towers, I'm curious what some of them are like, not to mention the surrounding areas.
False hope that’ll I’ll get lucky with a good list? That doesn’t make any sense. I’m just an optimist ?♂️it's false hope, but ok.
I’m seeing facilities that I like that I would have never thought to look up/at in the first place. I know what you mean but I just like seeing consistent nice lists instead of the BFE frozen tundras that we’re getting offered quite a bit. I understand it’s mostly a crapshoot. I’m just hopeful I will also have a nice list to choose from. Either way, it is what it is.Yeah you don't want to see your facilities offered to other classes, more than likely that means it won't be available whenever you get to that point in the process.
Each tower is going to be completely different. Best option would be to ask several questions you're curious about. I could tell you I came to mine with 4 others and only 2 of us certified, and 10 have arrived since we have and that's only given us 3 CPCs, but it doesn't really tell you anything other than the numbers.
Bold of you to assume people managed to get out of their low-level tower "first" facilities
I'm not saying it's a way to predict anything, just that the more you see your dream facility come up the more likely it will be "staffed" well enough to move down the priority list.it also doesn't mean that. It literally doesn't mean anything. The only way to semi-predict what's coming is by looking at the placement lists and even then sometimes they manipulate and skip places for whatever reason. Looking at staffing sheets/lists before it's your official list are basically useless and a giant waste of time.
It's really going to depend of where you live at if it's on the west coast it will be harder to survive on AG pay vs someplace in the south. As far as training time at this moment those aren't accurate, if you are finishing at the academy anytime soon you can expect a delay if there are others ahead of you, and that's if you can get in the building right away.I mean that's some interesting info to me haha. I guess stuff like: How accurate was the projected training time compared to your experience? Any issues living on AG pay for the first year or two? Did you have to save as much as possible or was it pretty comfortable? When you started out were you single or did you bring a family with you? What's the area surrounding your facility like and how far were you willing to commute to work? How long did it take to find a place to rent/live?
Stuff like that I guess. I tried browsing the individual facility threads but no one really posts to those
Lol I knew someone was going to catch that. I guess I would ask: is life at a smaller facility improved enough by having CPC pay over AG pay to make getting stuck there more manageable?
Yeah, but it doesn't really give any meaningful info other than we've had a bad streak of people washing. I certified in 7 months and had a kid halfway between ground and local, it's about 8 months to a year average for certifying if you really need it.I mean that's some interesting info to me haha. I guess stuff like: How accurate was the projected training time compared to your experience? Any issues living on AG pay for the first year or two? Did you have to save as much as possible or was it pretty comfortable? When you started out were you single or did you bring a family with you? What's the area surrounding your facility like and how far were you willing to commute to work? How long did it take to find a place to rent/live?
Stuff like that I guess. I tried browsing the individual facility threads but no one really posts to those
I got sent to Van Nuys right off the bat, no experience, all the way across the country from where I grew up and all my family and friends were.I mean that's some interesting info to me haha. I guess stuff like: How accurate was the projected training time compared to your experience? Any issues living on AG pay for the first year or two? Did you have to save as much as possible or was it pretty comfortable? When you started out were you single or did you bring a family with you? What's the area surrounding your facility like and how far were you willing to commute to work? How long did it take to find a place to rent/live?
Stuff like that I guess.
2200/monthAppreciate the info everyone. Surprised so many people were already married/had families straight out of the academy. Can anyone estimate approximately what the take-home pay is on an AG salary? I know it depends on taxes in your location and stuff
2200/month
Faq.Appreciate the info everyone. Surprised so many people were already married/had families straight out of the academy. Can anyone estimate approximately what the take-home pay is on an AG salary? I know it depends on taxes in your location and stuff