Yeah why would I work at a 10+ when I could go to that level 4 and rest and vest for the same pension/pay.
So how is it fair I can’t progress my career? What other government agency does that?
It’s not
And also, no where did I agree to “I’ll relocate to anywhere in the US and that will be my only move and I understand I’ll never be able to leave that location until I retire”
Yeah except most level 4's are located in absolute shit hole places. I can't imagine living in a place like beaumont or flint, no matter how much I made.
With so much competition for low levels at that point staffing will be great and every low level will be fat staffed. I’d live in a lot of those places and never have use or lose.
There was a very different expectation when I started at my first facility pre NCEPT. Everyone was helpful and supportive of you bidding up and out, then that trash dropped and we all slunk around in secret trying to stab each other in the back playing priority games. “So and so put in for xxx” was the hottest gossip. Whole thing is 🗑️
I get what you’re saying, I’m simply stating you could raise my personal salary 25% and I still would be $20,000/year below the federal cap this year and I work at a 12. it’s going to be years before I reach the cap at a 1.6% pace
I hear you, but you could extend that even to 5-6-7. Why work level 12 when you get the same pension elsewhere. Its a dumb idea btw
I didn’t say it is fair. You got into a profession with limited staffing at facilities. You can’t expect to get anywhere just because you want to get there, in any career.
Because you would’ve had that opportunity to force raises and better work situations. That doesn’t exist in NCEPT.
Well, it's supposed to take about 17-18 years to reach the top of your band as it is. With that raise included, you'd hit the federal cap in like 6 years, then never get a locality increase again.
Amen!
You would definitely have more people living where they want instead of chasing money, but agree it's a pretty dumb idea to pay all the same.
It shouldn’t take as long as GS to get to top of band when we can’t work as long
N90/C90 is just a few clicks away, no ones stopping you.
I’m wayyyyyy over qualified. It be wasted talent
That’s what our union is supposed to be for and the lack of union power or how far the union is removed from the BUEs is why we are on this thread.
Exactly.
I think most people would trade being able to get to where they wanna go over pay. Obviously you want both, but if it were one or the other I’d keep my pay and go where I want.
No, the people who were hired in the early 2000s knew exactly what facility they were going to before they accepted the TOL. This new way of not knowing where you're going until the day you graduate the academy is insane. The ERR process was also very different pre- NCEPT. Yea, some places would give you a 2 year release date but at least you had a light at the end of the tunnel. Now it's a lottery and none of your qualifications or time in the agency matter.
