Enroute Class pass rate

[njeezy08]

9/12 4 ZFW, 3 ZOA, 1 ZKC, 1 ZMP

Lots of ZFW lately I feel like..

 

[Joshyoua]

Anyone have the class pass % and the facilities offered to the class that selected today?

I'm not sure if anyone selected today. The next class to select take their evals today and tomorrow. They will choose on Thursday from this list.

ZID, ZDC, ZKC, ZMP, ZME, ZDC, ZID, ZOB, ZMP, ZKC, ZFW, ZOA, ZFW, ZOA, ZBW, ZFW, and ZDC.

 

[bigshotscott]

It seems like these latest lists don't exactly correspond with the placement list given on the forum here? Just trying to understand the process...

 

[Cmsgthokage]

Lots of ZFW lately I feel like..

Then ZFW drops off the list just in time for the the 2018 OTS bid people to graduate. Lol

 

[Blix900]

We lost 3 today, ZDC, ZFW, ZBW dropped off.

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

It seems like these latest lists don't exactly correspond with the placement list given on the forum here? Just trying to understand the process...

My recommendation is to not worry about it. The only list anyone in training should concern themselves with is the one they’re handed one week before placement day.

 

[Joshyoua]

Next class selects on Thursday. ZMP, ZOA, ZID, ZMP, ZFW, ZOA, ZSE, ZLA, ZID, ZJX, ZFW, ZOA, ZTL, and ZBW.

 

[Joshyoua]

Class passed 13/14 so ZBW fell off the list. There were two alternate slots for ZAN, one was taken which left a ZOA slot unfilled.

 

[twn]

Class passed 13/14 so ZBW fell off the list. There were two alternate slots for ZAN, one was taken which left a ZOA slot unfilled.

Really good pass rates since the shutdown

 

[pointfivesixty]

Really good pass rates since the shutdown

You’d think this would make the FAA realize that it might be a good idea to make the course a few weeks longer but nah. That’s too logical.

 

[ABACUS]

You’d think this would make the FAA realize that it might be a good idea to make the course a few weeks longer but nah. That’s too logical.

Well, the course was validated for a specific timeframe. You don’t want the FAA passing every warm body that enters the building otherwise u are just putting shitty trainees onto the center.

Isn’t that what happened in the first place that made the FAA change evals/course to be tougher?

 

[randoturbo33]

You’d think this would make the FAA realize that it might be a good idea to make the course a few weeks longer but nah. That’s too logical.

The point of the academy isn’t to make people pass at the academy, it’s to make people pass at their facilities. We probably won’t ever get statistics on this, but I’d wager that a smaller percentage of these last few classes will ultimately end up certifying at their facilities.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

The point of the academy isn’t to make people pass at the academy, it’s to make people pass at their facilities. We probably won’t ever get statistics on this, but I’d wager that a smaller percentage of these last few classes will ultimately end up certifying at their facilities.

I don’t know, I bet the numbers would be about the same. Like you said it’s hard to track down but success rates seem to be about the same now that the academy is harder then ten years ago when pass rates were 90%.

I think the main function of success is the training program and the culture of the facility. This is more important then the incoming individuals talent. Despite what we like to think this is not training to become a brain surgeon or astronaut, most of the population mature enough to be hired should be good enough to do the job. The facility training though will determine if a less talented person can make it or if a highly talented person does not due to facility incompetence or personality conflicts.

 

[bceltics933]

I’d love to see any data to support that. The highest pass rate I’ve seen has been 60%. They saw a huge spike in higher rates for a few months then it went back down.

The majority of classes pass 50% roughly right now.

You’re talking a student or two difference from class to class as well.

The fact still remains marital problems, financial planning, nerves, too much partying, etc is always rampant at the academy.

It is what it is. You either go there for the right reason with the right mindset or you don’t.

Lmfao have you been to the academy yet?

 

[Flashy Vectors]

I don’t know, I bet the numbers would be about the same. Like you said it’s hard to track down but success rates seem to be about the same now that the academy is harder then ten years ago when pass rates were 90%.

I think the main function of success is the training program and the culture of the facility. This is more important then the incoming individuals talent. Despite what we like to think this is not training to become a brain surgeon or astronaut, most of the population mature enough to be hired should be good enough to do the job. The facility training though will determine if a less talented person can make it or if a highly talented person does not due to facility incompetence or personality conflicts.

Anyone that's been in the FAA will tell you that the days where they passed 90% the facility failure rate was double what it is now. It's better to fail at the academy then at facility. Also I'm not sure if you've done this job or have been to the academy it takes a certain person to be a controller. The FAA is not wasting all this money training and putting you through aptitude tests for show.

 

[SwampDonkey]

most of the population mature enough to be hired should be good enough to do the job.

Future supervisor right here.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

Anyone that's been in the FAA will tell you that the days where they passed 90% the facility failure rate was double what it is now. It's better to fail at the academy then at facility. Also I'm not sure if you've done this job or have been to the academy it takes a certain person to be a controller. The FAA is not wasting all this money training and putting you through aptitude tests for show.

“Anyone that's been in the FAA will tell you that the days where they passed 90% the facility failure rate was double what it is now.”

Like fuck it is.

 

[bayoumudd92]

So what was the pass rate yesterday?

Edit: Just heard 14/18 from Kim.

 

[Rodsmash]

Any word on their list?

 

[Rodsmash]

The class yesterday passed 11/12

ZFW x3
ZMP x3
ZOA
ZDV
ZLA
ZSE
ZBW