Hiring Bid FAA-ATO-21-ALLSRCE-73599

flypilot

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The real ATSA has harder math problems than the ATCPrep.com. But focus on doing the games and not the math, especially the target separation game. Remember, you’re applying to be a controller not a mathematician.

I used ATCPrep and got a BQ so it worked for me and I would suggest it, but I haven’t used any others so I can’t speak to them.
 
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The real ATSA has harder math problems than the ATCPrep.com. But focus on doing the games and not the math, especially the target separation game. Remember, you’re applying to be a controller not a mathematician.

I used ATCPrep and got a BQ so it worked for me and I would suggest it, but I haven’t used any others so I can’t speak to them.
I’ve seen so many people talk about ATCPrep, so I’m gonna give that a shot even though I’ve been using JobTestPrep for a while now.
 
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Like I said before, I've been practicing with JobTestPrep, which I really like, but I decided to buy ATCPrep to see how it is since a lot of people have sworn by it.

I've obviously never taken the ATSA before, so I don't know which test prep is closest to the actual test; so if anyone has experience with both please chime in!

I just did my first collision sim on ATCPrep, and it's so different from JobTestPrep that it left me feeling deflated.

Difference 1:

ATC: If you think two balls are going to collide and you press the keyboard to remove one of them, it'll say at the bottom "wrong collision response" and the ball will remain on the screen.

JTP: You have the freedom to remove whatever balls you want from the screen.

Difference 2:

ATC: If you think there are no collisions, then you have to press 0 on the numpad.

JTP: No such thing.

Difference 3:

ATC: You have to remove the balls with the lowest numerical value. For example, if you have two balls on a collision course (ball 2 and ball 5), then you should remove ball 2 because that would "give you more points" since it registers the removal of the ball with the lowest numerical value as being more efficient.

JTP: No such thing.

I'm getting a bit too technical and I know some people might come after me on here, but I'd just like to know how the collision sim on the actual test is like.

1) Do you have the freedom to remove whichever balls you think will collide?
2) Do you have to press "0" on the numpad if you think none of the balls will collide?
3) Do you have to remove the balls with the lowest numerical value?

I'm asking these questions because some people on here might have the same questions.

I guess this is why some of the veterans on here recommend not to practice too much, so you don't get stumped on the nuances of the actual test. I guess I learned my lesson.
 

ChuckMastaT

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Like I said before, I've been practicing with JobTestPrep, which I really like, but I decided to buy ATCPrep to see how it is since a lot of people have sworn by it.

I've obviously never taken the ATSA before, so I don't know which test prep is closest to the actual test; so if anyone has experience with both please chime in!

I just did my first collision sim on ATCPrep, and it's so different from JobTestPrep that it left me feeling deflated.

Difference 1:

ATC: If you think two balls are going to collide and you press the keyboard to remove one of them, it'll say at the bottom "wrong collision response" and the ball will remain on the screen.

JTP: You have the freedom to remove whatever balls you want from the screen.

Difference 2:

ATC: If you think there are no collisions, then you have to press 0 on the numpad.

JTP: No such thing.

Difference 3:

ATC: You have to remove the balls with the lowest numerical value. For example, if you have two balls on a collision course (ball 2 and ball 5), then you should remove ball 2 because that would "give you more points" since it registers the removal of the ball with the lowest numerical value as being more efficient.

JTP: No such thing.

I'm getting a bit too technical and I know some people might come after me on here, but I'd just like to know how the collision sim on the actual test is like.

1) Do you have the freedom to remove whichever balls you think will collide?
2) Do you have to press "0" on the numpad if you think none of the balls will collide?
3) Do you have to remove the balls with the lowest numerical value?

I'm asking these questions because some people on here might have the same questions.

I guess this is why some of the veterans on here recommend not to practice too much, so you don't get stumped on the nuances of the actual test. I guess I learned my lesson.

1. You can remove anything on the ATSA, but the goal is to remove as few as possible, so if two are going to collide, you only need to remove one, but sometimes one dot will hit 2 different dots so the best choice is to remove the one dot over removing the two dots it will hit.

2. You press 0 if no collisions are present

3. Lowest value balls preferred
 

flypilot

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Like I said before, I've been practicing with JobTestPrep, which I really like, but I decided to buy ATCPrep to see how it is since a lot of people have sworn by it.

I've obviously never taken the ATSA before, so I don't know which test prep is closest to the actual test; so if anyone has experience with both please chime in!

I just did my first collision sim on ATCPrep, and it's so different from JobTestPrep that it left me feeling deflated.

Difference 1:

ATC: If you think two balls are going to collide and you press the keyboard to remove one of them, it'll say at the bottom "wrong collision response" and the ball will remain on the screen.

JTP: You have the freedom to remove whatever balls you want from the screen.

Difference 2:

ATC: If you think there are no collisions, then you have to press 0 on the numpad.

JTP: No such thing.

Difference 3:

ATC: You have to remove the balls with the lowest numerical value. For example, if you have two balls on a collision course (ball 2 and ball 5), then you should remove ball 2 because that would "give you more points" since it registers the removal of the ball with the lowest numerical value as being more efficient.

JTP: No such thing.

I'm getting a bit too technical and I know some people might come after me on here, but I'd just like to know how the collision sim on the actual test is like.

1) Do you have the freedom to remove whichever balls you think will collide?
2) Do you have to press "0" on the numpad if you think none of the balls will collide?
3) Do you have to remove the balls with the lowest numerical value?

I'm asking these questions because some people on here might have the same questions.

I guess this is why some of the veterans on here recommend not to practice too much, so you don't get stumped on the nuances of the actual test. I guess I learned my lesson.
Job is completely wrong. The real ATSA is just like ATCPrep. Difference 2 and 3 are exactly like the real ATSA. I don’t fully understand difference 3. I think that means you thought 2 were going to collide but they weren’t. Sometimes they get real close but there will be a pixel or 2 between them and they wouldn’t have collided. That happens on the real ATSA too
 
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Anyone got any tips on the desired type of prior work exp/schooling best to have to get accepted into this just starting out on trying to figure out how to get in age 26 no college but tons of work experience in management of large projects and managing people will do schooling if needed any tips would be amazing thank you!
 

redsphanatic

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Anyone got any tips on the desired type of prior work exp/schooling best to have to get accepted into this just starting out on trying to figure out how to get in age 26 no college but tons of work experience in management of large projects and managing people will do schooling if needed any tips would be amazing thank you!
As long as you meet the minimum education/work experience requirements stated in the bid, you could have almost any job background prior to coming to the agency.
 

redsphanatic

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So even just hard labor such as construction? I was also thinking of taking a few math classes to spice my resume up?
As long as you are able to document 3 years of full time (40 hr/week) work as stated in the bid, then absolutely. As far as what you actually did, as long as it wasn’t illegal or something like that, it really does not matter.
 
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As long as you are able to document 3 years of full time (40 hr/week) work as stated in the bid, then absolutely. As far as what you actually did, as long as it wasn’t illegal or something like that, it really does not matter.
Do you recommend that I start taking that prep testing program even now even though the next bids are not for a year
 
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