Hardships

I know of a case where a trainee got a hardship approved because the doctor said his wife was depressed not having any family around. It definitely works.
 
Andrew said:
Anyone know if you can get a waiver for the 3 level up with hardships?
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If there’s nothing in the area that meets the level requirement you’ll be approved. I know of a hardship to grand forks ND (9) from a level 5 Bc that’s the only facility there. Next closest Is level 6 Fargo, which is 80-90 miles away.

or if the other facilities are staffed up
 
Logical_Mongoose said:
Anyone here have any insight on hardship due to mental health of a spouse? My wife has been suffering from severe anxiety and depression due to the move to my facility's location after academy and therapy is hardly making a dent. Any chance that documentation from mental health professional might be enough to validate a hardship in the eyes of the FAA?
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I’ve known two trainees that have hard shipped for this exact reason. Shouldn’t be a problem. Just get good medical documentation from your medical professional.
 
If you are a trainee and not struggling, I don't see the problem of admitting what is going on at home. Especially if you are genuine and ain't just trying to get out of your facility because you don't think you can make it. People just gotta be humble and be real.
 
I may be in the minority here but I think it is pathetic when people cannot survive outside of a five miles bubble from where they work born. This doesn't just apply to air traffic, I have friends from high school who still work the same summer jobs they did when they were in high school (they're teachers). Get out and see the country/world. Expand your horizons. Meet some new people.
 
32andBelow said:
Who would like admit to this on the floor?
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Honestly.... Who give a shit?

Either a) it's legit and fuck your coworkers, your spouse is more important than their feefees or b) it's not and if it works who cares what your (former) coworkers think anyways?

You are gonna be miserable if you spend your whole career worrying what "the floor" thinks.
 
GulfBravoPapa said:
I may be in the minority here but I think it is pathetic when people cannot survive outside of a five miles bubble from where they work born. This doesn't just apply to air traffic, I have friends from high school who still work the same summer jobs they did when they were in high school (they're teachers). Get out and see the country/world. Expand your horizons. Meet some new people.
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Agreed, but different strokes for different folks. I ended up back home because that's how ncept shook out for me, I could have ended up a bunch of other places and been just as happy. I had in 9 errs at the time. Some people just like "home" though.
 
GulfBravoPapa said:
I may be in the minority here but I think it is pathetic when people cannot survive outside of a five miles bubble from where they work born. This doesn't just apply to air traffic, I have friends from high school who still work the same summer jobs they did when they were in high school (they're teachers). Get out and see the country/world. Expand your horizons. Meet some new people.
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it’s not always a problem with location. I know what I signed up for but living in a high COL area working at lvl5 with RUS locality with two kids needing daycare, not making enough money for the wife to stay home and no friends or family to help in a pinch definitely sucks. just some perspective of why it sucks for me. That and my facility has never released someone in NCEPT and we’ve had 3 hardships since I’ve been here. I don’t want to live where I was born, I want to live where it’s easiest/best for my family.
 
Nhstadt said:
Either a) it's legit and fuck your coworkers, your spouse is more important than their feefees or b) it's not and if it works who cares what your (former) coworkers think anyways?
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I don't necessarily disagree with the thought process but if this is actually the way people start approaching hardships they're going to be removed entirely
 
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Dolan said:
I don't necessarily disagree with the thought process but if this is actually the way people start approaching hardships they're going to be removed entirely
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By no means am I saying people should abuse the hardship system, but let's face it, people are going to find loopholes, and with the way things work in the agency these days when it comes to transfers, you gotta look out for number 1 sometimes.
 
GulfBravoPapa said:
I may be in the minority here but I think it is pathetic when people cannot survive outside of a five miles bubble from where they work born. This doesn't just apply to air traffic, I have friends from high school who still work the same summer jobs they did when they were in high school (they're teachers). Get out and see the country/world. Expand your horizons. Meet some new people.
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A good percentage of me agrees with you, as I went away to college for 4 years and spent 7 years on the other side of the US before coming "home" and getting picked up for academy a short time later. I'd recommend living out of your comfort zone/hometown to anyone for at least a couple years.

But also sometimes the situation isn't a home vs away one. My current facility is actually closer to my wife's hometown than where we met/lived (my hometown). But she's closer with my family than her own, her friends and emotional support system are all there, her career was there, and she's tried to make it work where we are for going on 3 years now and just hasn't been able to. Sometimes life combined with some people's brain chemistry can continually beat the shit out of them until they have nothing in the tank.

Combine that with the fact that my facility has been able to release multiple people for the last few panels, yet released 0, and here I sit with 4 packets that I just had to re-up and it makes me desperate enough to see what avenues are out there to try and get back "home" for her.
 
GulfBravoPapa said:
I may be in the minority here but I think it is pathetic when people cannot survive outside of a five miles bubble from where they work born. This doesn't just apply to air traffic, I have friends from high school who still work the same summer jobs they did when they were in high school (they're teachers). Get out and see the country/world. Expand your horizons. Meet some new people.
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Some people have already seen enough of the world. It's pretty frustrating to request a certain region when being hired on and getting sent to the middle of nowhere across the country. At least give more people the region they requested is that so hard? And to watch fellow employees whine about being 2 or 3 hours away from home like it's the end of the world yet you have to drive 20 hours just to spend holidays with family?
 
Does anyone know if anyone has successfully hardshipped to be the main caretaker for a grandparent? It says parents but doesn’t specify the type of parent...
 

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