Any reason for the right? I’d probably offset to the left so as to not overfly the terminal environment at low level in heavy IFR. “FedEx go around left side when able turn left heading XXX maintain XXX, SW fly runway heading” or something of that nature. But again, also if I can’t see my departure to ensure they’re moving expeditiously, I’m not giving a clearance.
Any sort of turn for FDX would have been preferred, granted that is me not knowing how high the terminal building is in AUS.
Close in and low it’s not always great at acquiring targets. The vas video shows the fdx dropping off, and only starting to acquire the targets as they come off the airport and climb. Both planes being So low that the radar can’t even acquire and track them shows just how ugly and close it was. It seems the radar has issues tracking them because they are over the top of eachother and it’s trying to decide if it’s one target or 2, you can see how they bounce in and out before acquiring
I think he forgot the “control” part of his job.
I wonder if we’ll ever get to see the real playback
Totally within capabilities to verbally ensure vertical separation. Have SW stop their climb and allow FDX to continue to whatever for another approach. But as for conflict alerts, similar to what bandit said, low level over the airport environment you’d be lucky to get a target. Previously I’d have my targets drop off around half a mile or so and wouldn’t repopulate until similar off the departure end. Can’t imagine SW had populated for there to be any sort of conflict alert on the radar. Outside of the immediate airport environment the CA would be going bananas.
You should be able to see it on falcon. They don’t have an asde so that’s the best it’s going to get
That's because he had it under control the whole time.
Someone said the ODP goes to 4 and he climbed the FedEx to 3
? he had the right idea… the recording was definitely super lackadaisical in nature. Even with instructing FedEx to climb to 3 his demeanor was just… meh. Another question I have is why did tcas not issue an RA?
Didn't know where the terminal was but appeared SWA went left. Either left or right ideally whatever works for the setup they have was my initial point. That and capping.
Don’t believe that was said. We were discussing conflict alerts on the radar display. The issue being you likely couldn’t physically see the incident unfolding and radar targets likely dropped off so you really have no visual whatsoever. Just two aircraft over the runway at the same time.
Yeah the controller instructed SW to turn right to which SW responded “negative.” So either lack of aircraft capability in departure climb and/or situational awareness in the terminal environment being to the right.
No. The controller said “turn right” because he believed southwest had aborted takeoff. He was telling southwest to “turn right when able” meaning exit the runway when able.
Ah I see the situation. FedEx keyed up and simply said “southwest abort” then keyed up again saying “FedEx on the go” then the controller replied “Roger southwest you can turn right when able.”
You certified somewhere? Wow.
Because it would never stop alerting.
My first day in the cab as a trainee I heard the CA sound go off. I asked my trainer what that noise was. He said, "Oh, it just means two planes are about to hit". I stood up wide-eyed, not knowing what to do. He said, "Don't worry, you'll get used to it, it's more annoying than helpful". I remember thinking I was at the worst tower in the country if that was their mentality. 5 years and 2 certs later - he was right, that shit gets old
