This isn’t what they’re asking. They’re asking if there’s some formula or something somewhere that says “Eglin AFB = Level 10 up/down equivalent” which I’ve merely only heard rumors of something existing. Never actually seen it.
There is an older PDF from a few years ago (Pre-COVID) floating around that has x military facility equates to x FAA level facility.
There you go... Had to hunt for it on my computer.
pointsixtyfive.com
I know big daddy. I keep a few aces up my sleeve.Previous Experience Hire Placement
SOP for the facility placement of those hired under "previous experience" announcements. The military facility level equivalency spreadsheet is attached to the first post in the discussion tab.
GulfCharlie I'd never seen that before.
Keep in mind this is from 2018, for instance EYW ops took a hit this year since they no longer take point-outs for the overheads into NQX due to the initial being 2600 instead of 2500.
I recall an instance where they denied a point out once for an IFR into NQX and immediate requested a release. Never seen a controller so irate and get pulled of position so fast so as to de-escalate the situation before in my life.
Sounds like you still work here ?. NQX approach has probably the smallest amount of airspace I have ever worked and its complexity can increase very fast especially on a 26/27 configuration.
I’ve watched a 737 split down the middle a flight of 2 f18s in the left break on a 26/27 config… “oh fuck…” followed by a moment of silence and then the hornet pilots coming on freq saying “yeah we had delta in sight.” Approach calling upstairs saying delta said he had the fighters in sight. Then a phone call from radar asking wtf we were doing upstairs ?
It is/was part of the formula to compare FCT’s and DoD for placement.
Yah it just seems pointless if the person is working higher level traffic every day
Yeah, for many reasons. Traffic count is already a pretty tenuous direct comparison, then add in things like how they get that count... "Oh I forgot to click this shift. Felt like about 120. (it was 7)" or places like Randolph that claim 400k ops in the tower, while its an RSU with tex2s just in the rectangular pattern for 8 hrs.
I don’t disagree, regardless the data is long out of date and occasionally someone wants to take a glance at the numbers and compare, though we know that DoD vs FAA is not even a true comparison.
None of that matters.
Agreed. I've seen Navy Tracon controllers get anywhere from a level 7 up/down to level 12 centers. It's a mixed bag based more on need and location of the FAA.
thank you!
