FightingIrish2012
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I think that is illegal.
New Mandatory Mask Wearing MOU is out.
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PushingTin
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agreed. that is an eyebrow raiser. sounds like an extra special tyranny there. hope its not on my country clubs list!
GMX
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I noticed you didn't take up for Christians in that response.
Stinger
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Probably not illegal. But I know national level NATCA/FAA have said to not put out additional guidance/MOUs/interpretations on it.
The current MOU is meant to stand on it's own.
In what possible universe would it be illegal to mandate masks? Or do you think it's illegal for the FAA to mandate wearing clothes altogether?
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ClearanceClarence
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Hey if we’re having a legal debate, how is it kosher to force trainees to sit on pointless Zoom classes every day when there’s no telework agreement in place, and they’re not in a telework eligible position to begin with? How exactly can someone be on excused absence and have to attend official duty time Zoom classes simultaneously?
GMX
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Not at all.
Just curious why offense was taken so quickly over what was perceived as conflating masks to the Holocaust. Why not as much offense at all the Christian persecution in the world perceived as being conflated with the same "it's just a <blank>" post?
On a related note, I think lot of people would willingly get in a railcar if told to...
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JUST BE LUCKING YOU HAVE A JOB YOU STUPIDHEAD
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Do the zoom meeting have you use government equipment or do you directly access the FAA network? Not trying to be snotty but I think if you aren’t doing either of those things the telework agreement doesn’t apply.
Like if it’s some fucking zoom the supe sets up and you join from your iPad or something.
Straight from the OPM site:
What is the definition of telework? View less
The Telework Enhancement Act defines telework or teleworking as a work flexibility arrangement under which an employee performs the duties and responsibilities of such employee's position, and other authorized activities, from an approved worksite other than the location from which the employee would otherwise work. In practice, telework is a work arrangement that allows an employee to perform work, during any part of regular, paid hours, at an approved alternative worksite (e.g. home or telework center).
If it's "considered a work assignment" - that sure sounds like WFH to me.
What is the definition of telework? View less
The Telework Enhancement Act defines telework or teleworking as a work flexibility arrangement under which an employee performs the duties and responsibilities of such employee's position, and other authorized activities, from an approved worksite other than the location from which the employee would otherwise work. In practice, telework is a work arrangement that allows an employee to perform work, during any part of regular, paid hours, at an approved alternative worksite (e.g. home or telework center).
If it's "considered a work assignment" - that sure sounds like WFH to me.
ClearanceClarence
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just gonna leave this from the FAQ too...
Can an agency force an employee to telework? View less
No. The language of the Telework Enhancement Act does not contain language that would lead us to revise our understanding that telework is a voluntary flexibility. In other words, an agency may not compel an employee to telework even if the duties of the position make that employee “telework eligible.” However, although entering into a telework arrangement is voluntary, once the employee is under such an arrangement, he/she may be required to telework outside of his/her normal work schedule in the case of a temporary emergency situation if that understanding has been clearly communicated by the agency to the teleworking employee in the written telework agreement. Also, it is important to remember the intent of the Act is to promote the use of telework so agencies and managers should make every effort to encourage employees and managers to telework as appropriate.
Can an agency force an employee to telework? View less
No. The language of the Telework Enhancement Act does not contain language that would lead us to revise our understanding that telework is a voluntary flexibility. In other words, an agency may not compel an employee to telework even if the duties of the position make that employee “telework eligible.” However, although entering into a telework arrangement is voluntary, once the employee is under such an arrangement, he/she may be required to telework outside of his/her normal work schedule in the case of a temporary emergency situation if that understanding has been clearly communicated by the agency to the teleworking employee in the written telework agreement. Also, it is important to remember the intent of the Act is to promote the use of telework so agencies and managers should make every effort to encourage employees and managers to telework as appropriate.
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Funny thing is I asked my rep how they’re forcing people to do Zoom without a telework agreement like OPM requires and he said he’d look into it. Still waiting on an answer
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It’s obvious NATCA is on board with the Zoom stuff, the question is why? If they really are a part of the master plan to avoid furloughs that have “never been discussed,” then fine that makes enough sense. But if they’re happening solely because someone got pissed trainees were getting a “free vacation” and wanted to force them to do busy work, then that’s a problem. NATCA needs to explain why they’re happening and why they support them.
they support it because they are "protecting the essential workforce" by "keeping you out of the building" ... and no, they don't give a shit about you.
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