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Pushed to the brink? Another NYT article rehashes all the problems that haven't changed since before Reagan and PATCO
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God forbid we just go to normal set schedules that rotate every month or something to make it “fair”. Why can’t we have straight set schedules and if you work the busier traffic of the facility you get 15% extra pay or something? I’d rather work all nights and not have to rotate than our current schedules that make us fucking zombies for no reason.
Logical_Mongoose
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Raise when?
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5 on 5 off I had straight 1400s. Loved it, my crew was great though. All solid controllers and good people, best year or so of work of my life. I imagine it’s what it’s like for an NBA championship team where people know their roles, believe in sacrificing for the team, know how to share the ball etc.
Well they have the time free from work to do so unlike us:
10 hour turns
72 hours per pay period
6 weeks vacation
185% OT
I can already imagine how many people would quit and look for new jobs if this happened. I think a lot of you underestimate how many people hate swings shifts and would not be happy with a month of them. Ive never heard a single complaint about the rattler in person, just on here and reddit.
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So talk to your rep and get enough people in your facility on board. My facility alternates day/swing every week (except for 1 area that chose the rattler). FAA doesn’t set the shift rotation, that’s a local decision.
This is what we currently do but momentum is growing to switch to the rattler and I'm all for it.
Yea, your anecdotal evidence overrides actual scientific studies by nasa 🙄🙄🙄
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NASA did a study on how many people like swings?
Literally studies show it’s bad for your health to work the rattler. I personally would like to live past retirement age. What’s the first thing people do on their “long” weekends everyone praises? Probably sleep or down an energy drink because their sleep schedule is trashed from the previous week worked.
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National Aeronautics and Swings Administration.
The problem is the old heads will never let it happen because they’ve been doing it for 15yrs and are brainwashed that it gives them a longer weekend. It also takes years off your life but glad you got that extra 4hrs to make up for all the sleep you lost during the week lol.
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All this stuff is negotiated locally. If you think you have a better plan get with your facrep/e-board a few months before schedule negotiations start. Build your schedule based off the shift guidelines and how many are bidding. Put it up to a vote with the members and you can be the change in your facility. The problem is that many people like the rattlers, and finding a balanced schedule that pleases everyone is difficult. I’d recommend getting some other coworkers on board to try and build schedules as well, so you can vote between multiple options.
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Have you heard any praise about the rattler in person? Maybe nobody likes talking to you.
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Definitely seems to be the case. Complaining is contagious. It's easier to gripe than it is to channel that energy into action that effects change.
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