KAB said:We had a 70.08. He thought he failed and was waiting to be escorted out. Finally the guy came in like 3 hours later and was like "what do you mean escort you out? You passed!"
If you don’t know exactly what you need to get out of there then they should fail you!! Lmao!!!
KAB said:We had a 70.08. He thought he failed and was waiting to be escorted out. Finally the guy came in like 3 hours later and was like "what do you mean escort you out? You passed!"
We had one with a 70.73. A missed ATIS error would have costed them the spot. If they didn't TR their first LC run, they would have failed. Fight for those points!
PolishMythology said:We had one with a 70.73. A missed ATIS error would have costed them the spot. If they didn't TR their first LC run, they would have failed. Fight for those points!
Also if they didn’t have one of those deals they would have passed easier!!!
PolishMythology said:We had one with a 70.73. A missed ATIS error would have costed them the spot. If they didn't TR their first LC run, they would have failed. Fight for those points!
Bold of you to assume that I caught the guy with no ATIS. (I did not.)
I had two big errors on each of my local runs that very nearly cost me the job. The first run I gave a Cheyenne a 360 after missing being able to extend their downwind by maybe half a second, assuming it would buy me more time then it did (laws of physics and all but the simulation turned them on a hair) and then had them overfly three aircraft and a runway with about a minute left in the problem with some botched traffic calls (gave a traffic alert to the Cheyenne, but, in my panic, no advisory to two of the aircraft he flew over.). The second run I had a wake turbulence timer going and cleared an aircraft for takeoff from an intersection, caught it as soon as I did, cancelled clearance and had them hold position, no points lost, taxied an aircraft across the runway downfield and then cleared the intersection departure for takeoff about a second before the crossing aircraft passed the hold short line, he was off the runway, but not "clear" of the runway. I saw it happen and immediately knew I blew it.
Without those two errors my 70.73 would have been in the 80s. After my second local run I was certain I'd failed. I scored two points higher on the run then what I needed to to pass. The feeling of relief after the evaluator gave me my score was incredible. I'm honestly still in disbelief. MWH here I come!
As for the guy from our class who didn't make it, he'd struggled a bit throughout, as had I, but he put in the most effort out of everyone in the class and always maintained a positive attitude throughout. I'd be lying if I said without him being there and lifting the mood, there would have been days where I would have struggled more and/or had worse runs. Everyone in our class was heartbroken when he failed. He had one really bad mistake that snowballed in his last local run. Missed a landing clearance on a VFR fast mover that went around and destroyed his traffic pattern causing a ton of errors. Without that one simple thing he'd have passed with a higher score than me. It's really crazy, not to mention extremely stressful, how one small error or poor split second decision can cost you the job. I am incredibly lucky to still be here.
JonathanDWeaver said:Bold of you to assume that I caught the guy with no ATIS. (I did not.)
I had two big errors on each of my local runs that very nearly cost me the job. The first run I gave a Cheyenne a 360 after missing being able to extend their downwind by maybe half a second, assuming it would buy me more time then it did (laws of physics and all but the simulation turned them on a hair) and then had them overfly three aircraft and a runway with about a minute left in the problem with some botched traffic calls (gave a traffic alert to the Cheyenne, but, in my panic, no advisory to two of the aircraft he flew over.). The second run I had a wake turbulence timer going and cleared an aircraft for takeoff from an intersection, caught it as soon as I did, cancelled clearance and had them hold position, no points lost, taxied an aircraft across the runway downfield and then cleared the intersection departure for takeoff about a second before the crossing aircraft passed the hold short line, he was off the runway, but not "clear" of the runway. I saw it happen and immediately knew I blew it.
Without those two errors my 70.73 would have been in the 80s. After my second local run I was certain I'd failed. I scored two points higher on the run then what I needed to to pass. The feeling of relief after the evaluator gave me my score was incredible. I'm honestly still in disbelief. MWH here I come!
As for the guy from our class who didn't make it, he'd struggled a bit throughout, as had I, but he put in the most effort out of everyone in the class and always maintained a positive attitude throughout. I'd be lying if I said without him being there and lifting the mood, there would have been days where I would have struggled more and/or had worse runs. Everyone in our class was heartbroken when he failed. He had one really bad mistake that snowballed in his last local run. Missed a landing clearance on a VFR fast mover that went around and destroyed his traffic pattern causing a ton of errors. Without that one simple thing he'd have passed with a higher score than me. It's really crazy, not to mention extremely stressful, how one small error or poor split second decision can cost you the job. I am incredibly lucky to still be here.
Don’t worry about where you finish. They guy who finished first in my class washed in the tower at his facility and the guy who finished last is checked out at a challenging level 6 up down in the northwest haha.
CF said:Don’t worry about where you finish. They guy who finished first in my class washed in the tower at his facility and the guy who finished last is checked out at a challenging level 6 up down in the northwest haha.
I didn’t know there was a challenging level 6 updown in the northwest!
Mike Kilo said:I didn’t know there was a challenging level 6 updown in the northwest!
It’s all relative but for a noob that configuration is probably a lot to deal with at first.
JonathanDWeaver said:taxied an aircraft across the runway downfield and then cleared the intersection departure for takeoff about a second before the crossing aircraft passed the hold short line, he was off the runway, but not "clear" of the runway
Damn. I would have fought that tooth and nail. Straight from the pilot/controller glossary term CLEAR OF THE RUNWAY:
A pilot or controller may consider an aircraft, which is exiting or crossing a runway, to be clear of the runway when all parts of the aircraft are beyond the runway edge and there are no restrictions to its continued movement beyond the applicable runway holding position marking.
Also, was the departure holding in position when you cleared him, or still holding short at the intersection? Because if he wasn't in position yet, anticipated separation all day long.
Termine said:Damn. I would have fought that tooth and nail. Straight from the pilot/controller glossary term CLEAR OF THE RUNWAY:
Also, was the departure holding in position when you cleared him, or still holding short at the intersection? Because if he wasn't in position yet, anticipated separation all day long.
With items like that where it wasn't a technical error with the sim, they may not award points especially if it's the evaluator's word against yours. I was able to successfully TR a 16 point fireball because I had done everything correctly, but the sim screwed up during a local run. 2 less touch and go guys to worry about though.
List for the class finishing PAs 8/26:
TOA
VNY
PRC
LVK
AZO
FTW
FNT
RST
SUX
Alternates
FAI
FAI
ITO
OGG
JNU
Bearikade said:List for the class finishing PAs 8/26:
TOA
VNY
PRC
LVK
AZO
FTW
FNT
RST
SUXAlternates
FAI
FAI
ITO
OGG
JNU
Nice alt list for the right person
Bearikade said:List for the class finishing PAs 8/26:
TOA
VNY
PRC
LVK
AZO
FTW
FNT
RST
SUXAlternates
FAI
FAI
ITO
OGG
JNU
I've never seen Hawaii alts. Weird.
redsphanatic said:With items like that where it wasn't a technical error with the sim, they may not award points especially if it's the evaluator's word against yours. I was able to successfully TR a 16 point fireball because I had done everything correctly, but the sim screwed up during a local run. 2 less touch and go guys to worry about though.
I also banged out a fireball on two touch and go aircraft in my first local run, and same results for me. Man the nerves really messed with me my first run but it got much better after that.
Bearikade said:List for the class finishing PAs 8/26:
TOA
VNY
PRC
LVK
AZO
FTW
FNT
RST
SUXAlternates
FAI
FAI
ITO
OGG
JNU
That's a nice list. FTW and PRC would be my #1s. I'm from Arizona so I'm biased but Prescott is a beautiful town and high enough in elevation it doesn't get the brutal Arizona heat and it does get snow in the winter. You'd only be 2 hours tops away from Phoenix and really close to Sedona and Flagstaff which are both really nice areas to go visit. PRC has a shit ton of student pilots though with Embry Riddle being based at the field so it would probably be a bit frustrating but I'd pick it in a heartbeat.
PRC and AZO are going to be upgraded to 8s within a year easily .
Bearikade said:List for the class finishing PAs 8/26:
TOA
VNY
PRC
LVK
AZO
FTW
FNT
RST
SUXAlternates
FAI
FAI
ITO
OGG
JNU
Of course the class after us get a better list.
boots said:PRC and AZO are going to be upgraded to 8s within a year easily .
PRC will never be a 8 without a TRACON. VNY isn’t even an 8.
redsphanatic said:PRC will never be a 8 without a TRACON. VNY isn’t even an 8.
They are already above the threshold lol. Same with AZO.
anyone know how that last class did? and the next list?
b1ggyfoot said:anyone know how that last class did? and the next list?
3 failed I believe. I’m not sure how many students they had. It was two weeks ago.
And tomorrow is day 1 evals. They only have 6 students I believe.
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