UAW were on Strike for 6 weeks and....

[Periculant]

UAW was on strike for 6 weeks.. UAW has approximately 400,000 members. I'm curious how much your life changed over those 6 weeks the 400K UAW members were on strike and got a 25% raise for the HIGHEST paid workers and 160% for the LOWEST paid workers. Could you not find parts for your vehicle to repair it? Did you go to a dealership and unable to purchase a vehicle? What exactly changed for you?

If 12,500 (All of ATC) Air Traffic Controllers were gone for 6 weeks.. lets say from now to the New Year. How much of an immediate impact would that have on the average American's life compared to 400K UAW members?

 

[MossimoDM]

That is why they had you sign a no strike statement or you are fired.

 

[acutetriangles]

We can’t strike dude

 

[Periculant]

We can’t strike dude

I didn't ask that but thanks for stating the obvious. Answering any of my questions are welcome though...

 

[acutetriangles]

There would be a huge impact in this fantastical hypothetical, yes.

 

[RB]

We can’t strike dude

You can do anything you want at least once.

 

[Flashy Vectors]

That is why they had you sign a no strike statement or you are fired.

If 12k controllers went on strike there’s no way in hell they would fire them. Staffing is dogshit and they’re already 10 years behind the curve. It would be an economic catastrophe. Let’s put the picket line president in a position to fire us and upset his voter base. This union has never been in a stronger position to bargain and the can keeps getting kicked.

 

[Raise when?]

If 12k controllers went on strike there’s no way in hell they would fire them. Staffing is dogshit and they’re already 10 years behind the curve. It would be an economic catastrophe. Let’s put the picket line president in a position to fire us and upset his voter base. This union has never been in a stronger position to bargain and the can keeps getting kicked.

would need massive amounts of solidarity, we're too divided and weak now, too many Bootslickers in our ranks..

 

[Foppery&Whim]

If 12k controllers went on strike there’s no way in hell they would fire them. Staffing is dogshit and they’re already 10 years behind the curve. It would be an economic catastrophe. Let’s put the picket line president in a position to fire us and upset his voter base. This union has never been in a stronger position to bargain and the can keeps getting kicked.

You wanna test that hypothetical under a republican president?

 

[Periculant]

You wanna test that hypothetical under a republican president?

legit question. President Fires 100% of ATC... how does the NAS function for the next week let alone the next 10 years?

 

[Raise when?]

legit question. President Fires 100% of ATC... how does the NAS function for the next week let alone the next 10 years?

They’d be done. Even the military is way understaffed

Getting 100% compliance is the hard part.

 

[WordsTwice]

they kept it going after they fired the PATCO guys not sure how

 

[Periculant]

They’d be done. Even the military is way understaffed

Getting 100% compliance is the hard part.

100% agree, The NAS would be absolutely F*ked.. But we would need the VAST majority to stand in solidarity.

 

[32andBelow]

they kept it going after they fired the PATCO guys not sure how

There were a ton of military controllers back then. A bunch even did pseudo en route functions. That is not the case today.

 

[Foppery&Whim]

legit question. President Fires 100% of ATC... how does the NAS function for the next week let alone the next 10 years?

Same way it functioned when Reagan fired more than 11,000 controllers. Fucked in the short-term and still broke and fucked up like Baltimore's school district. None of the current politicians have the foresight for long-term decision making, what makes you think they consider about long-term implications?

Here's the thing, we have no basis to strike since the union agreed to extend the current contract. We can all cry wolf but management can literally say "no-take backsies".

 

[Raise when?]

Same way it functioned when Reagan fired more than 11,000 controllers. Fucked in the short-term and still broke and fucked up like Baltimore's school district. None of the current politicians have the foresight for long-term decision making, what makes you think they consider about long-term implications?

Here's the thing, we have no basis to strike since the union agreed to extend the current contract. We can all cry wolf but management can literally say "no-take backsies".

A wildcat strike is a strike action undertaken by unionised workers without union leadership's authorisation, support, or approval; this is sometimes termed an unofficial industrial action. The legality of wildcat strikes varies between countries and over time.

Wildcat strike - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Flashy Vectors]

You wanna test that hypothetical under a republican president?

No.


I said the picket president implying Joe Biden

 

[Flashy Vectors]

they kept it going after they fired the PATCO guys not sure how

1980s traffic and the ended up hiring back a lot of the patco strikers

 

[Foppery&Whim]

A wildcat strike is a strike action undertaken by unionised workers without union leadership's authorisation, support, or approval; this is sometimes termed an unofficial industrial action. The legality of wildcat strikes varies between countries and over time.

Wildcat strike - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Scrolls down to United States legality: Wildcat strikes have been considered illegal in the United States since 1935.

 

[Raise when?]

Scrolls down to United States legality: Wildcat strikes have been considered illegal in the United States since 1935.

Lots of things are illegal and happen anyways, all the time.

Clarence Thomas has done a lot of illegal stuff, and nothing has happened.

Clarence Thomas’s brazen violation of ethics rules, briefly explained

By quietly accepting luxuries from a GOP megadonor, Thomas likely ran afoul of federal ethics law.

www.vox.com