Serious What would happen if AJO and FAA split

blarg said:
Yea until Trump wins and can and will literally just accept bribes (because his paid for Supreme Court just made it legal, oh wait it's a "gratuity", oh wait, no straight up bribery isn't illegal for the president because he's immune!) to tell his cronies to privatize it for whoever makes the best offer.
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Why didn't Trump do that to us last time he was President?
 
BDUB said:
Theoretically if this were true the regard controllers would continue to work for 1/2 the money they’re making rn because nobody wants to stand up and fight. There’s a reason controllers fought in the 80’s. They had huge balls I don’t think this generation does and that’s why whatever the faa shoves down our throat they will get away with. Forever.
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Right. All the large higher levels fac. aren’t doing anything drastic ever. The lower levels might get some people willing to be more bold, problem is they don’t work commercial airlines hardly at all. So no effect
 
ClearanceClarence said:
The doom-and-gloom fear mongering being pushed with a potential second Trump administration is both ridiculous and hilarious. But of course that’s the only argument the other side can make when they’re putting an Alzheimer’s patient on the ballot.
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You weren't paying any attention and haven't been since, if you think any of it is ridiculous.
 
ClearanceClarence said:
Most have been paying attention and realize their day to day lives were exponentially better under the last administration.
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By what metric?

Literally the only thing you could even make that argument with would be inflation. But here's the thing, most of inflation was caused by covid supply chain issues and corporate profiteering on top of that. You *probably* think it's due to government spending, and guess what? Some amount of inflation is always gov't spending if the money supply is increasing, but gov't spending during Trump was DOUBLE what it has been under Biden. Republicans like to act like Dems are ruining the country by spending, then they spend even more.

Every other metric shows the US economy being amazing, and recovering post-covid more strongly than anywhere else on earth.

But I'd love to hear what other "day to day" issues were so much better then than today. Truth is very little of the average person's day to day life changes based on who's president. I guess interest rates are probably the biggest thing that is worse now, but that has almost nothing to do with either Trump or Biden. And now I'm making 5% on my cash instead of zero.

US has reached all time highs of oil production (more than Russia and Saudi Arabia) while also focusing in green energy, reaching all time highs in gas and renewable energy as well. Guess that was actually better then?
Average household wealth is up 50% from pre-pandemic levels. Guess that was actually better then?
Manufacturing and factory construction growth has dramatically increased to the highest in 40 years. Better roll that back?
Employment was then and still is now at record lows.

I guess if your source of "info" is Newsmax/OAN/Fox/Epoch Times, or some idiot like Bongino and you hear them telling you for 3 years straight how everyone hates how bad a job the Biden administration has been doing you'd actually believe it. It's called brainwashing.
 
Nothanks said:
Right. All the large higher levels fac. aren’t doing anything drastic ever. The lower levels might get some people willing to be more bold, problem is they don’t work commercial airlines hardly at all. So no effect
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They cut flights to New York and the response was to move the Newark area to Philly. I think you guys overestimate the practically of our government.

We are safe from privatization mostly because rich people (I. E. people with political power) don't want user fees. The more and more the system crumbles the more likely we get privatized. And not in the navcanada way, more like the FSS way.
 
BDUB said:
Theoretically if this were true the regard controllers would continue to work for 1/2 the money they’re making rn because nobody wants to stand up and fight. There’s a reason controllers fought in the 80’s. They had huge balls I don’t think this generation does and that’s why whatever the faa shoves down our throat they will get away with. Forever.
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Some are scared of history repeating itself. In a sense Reagan broke the back of the profession
 
Nothanks said:
lol ok.

You do realize there isn’t any “more” to get until late 2026 at the earliest right ?
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You realize that some of them tried to extend to 2029 right?

Also I disagree. If they get raises for the blue and purple they should absolutely try to bring them over under an MOU. And when I say ask it means try because you can’t try if you don’t ask. Doesn’t mean it’ll be successful.
 
32andBelow said:
You realize that some of them tried to extend to 2029 right?

Also I disagree. If they get raises for the blue and purple they should absolutely try to bring them over under an MOU. And when I say ask it means try because you can’t try if you don’t ask. Doesn’t mean it’ll be successful.
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I do realize that some of them have voted to extend. Yes

You are naive, are you just mad and stuck at a level 7 or something ?
 

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