Man you got me there. I guess there are no lessons to learned from any union that isn’t federal. Good call man.We don’t work in the private sector
You guys act like people asking for more is the worst damn shit in the world
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with us getting 3-4% raise guaranteed a year to at least outpace inflation. I get where you’re coming from though about overstepping bounds. I just don’t think shitting on people for wanting better is reasonable. If someone was like yeah we should get 10% a year I’d understandStill waiting to see how much you should expect us to get every June. One person so far has said 3.2% or something every year minimum. I think some of you are just greedy.
Oh and 32 talking about us not being in the private sector. Well we aren't yet but if you go around demanding more money and less work every contract I bet we will be a lot sooner. Like I said earlier in this thread. PATCO demanded those things and now theyre gone. Reign in your expectations.
Our raises already outpace inflation. I'm just saying that looking from the other side and you were in literally any other job in the world right now how would you sell yourself? A large portion of our workforce just got the same pay check for working 5 on 10 off, or 5 on 5 off, or not working at all. Plus the fact that traffic is down by like 20%+ still and was down even more than that most of the year at the core-30 airports. Then you add in that we get several hours of breaks a day at many facilities. Then you compare how many people lost jobs over the past year and had to take unemployment while we have this cake job.I don’t think there’s anything wrong with us getting 3-4% raise guaranteed a year to at least outpace inflation. I get where you’re coming from though about overstepping bounds. I just don’t think shitting on people for wanting better is reasonable. If someone was like yeah we should get 10% a year I’d understand
Sorry I didn’t put forward and amendment to stop them from doing something no one new they were doing.Man you got me there. I guess there are no lessons to learned from any union that isn’t federal. Good call man.
Also ignored the fact that you had the chance to put forth an amendment requiring a vote from the membership on any contract, an extension included recently. But I guess just keep bitching about not having a voice and not getting that EA to drive home while paid.
And I also think they should have asked for better raises, but maybe they did and we don’t know how negotiations went. Maybe with all the stimulus free money the fed is throwing around they didn’t want to look out for the working person.
I’m just suggesting something I think would be fair and isn’t outrageous. I don’t think just become some pandemic cake around that the people who employ us dropped the ball on doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be fighting for higher raises. Just because we did get a great thing, not everyone did, not everyone is still on 5/5. I get what you’re saying that we got something good. That’s the point of a unionOur raises already outpace inflation. I'm just saying that looking from the other side and you were in literally any other job in the world right now how would you sell yourself? A large portion of our workforce just got the same pay check for working 5 on 10 off, or 5 on 5 off, or not working at all. Plus the fact that traffic is down by like 20%+ still and was down even more than that most of the year at the core-30 airports. Then you add in that we get several hours of breaks a day at many facilities. Then you compare how many people lost jobs over the past year and had to take unemployment while we have this cake job.
I just dont see how people can try to be mad at the union for taking an easy layup deal. Yeah the timing is weird, maybe they should have waited. That's the only legit knock I see.
You're at a place that's been letting people leave early on EA?the early shoves
Me personally I’m shitting on 32 because the one thing he asked for was to get paid to leave work early because he needs a mid day nap. He’s been certified like a freaking month and that’s the first thing that came to mind and 32 hasn’t been part of scheduling or negotiating a bws to help mitigate his fatigue....get involved locally to solve that problem instead of complaining about National not getting moreI don’t think there’s anything wrong with us getting 3-4% raise guaranteed a year to at least outpace inflation. I get where you’re coming from though about overstepping bounds. I just don’t think shitting on people for wanting better is reasonable. If someone was like yeah we should get 10% a year I’d understand
Now you’ve done it, that guy is a OM and you just outed yourself and the whole facility.YA. You give up your premiums if you do it on a Sunday or night tho
Wow I said raises too buddy. We already have article 33. I don’t think leaving when they are done with you is that crazy. But if it’s that offensive then whatever I don’t care.Me personally I’m shitting on 32 because the one thing he asked for was to get paid to leave work early because he needs a mid day nap. He’s been certified like a freaking month and that’s the first thing that came to mind and 32 hasn’t been part of scheduling or negotiating a bws to help mitigate his fatigue....get involved locally to solve that problem instead of complaining about National not getting more
God forbid you give him two planes, he’d complain he might have to separate.
Well you get to work an 8 instead of 8.5. You get to leave 30 min early every day! Your wish has been granted, and I would assume by the union. ?Wow I said raises too buddy. We already have article 33. I don’t think leaving when they are done with you is that crazy. But if it’s that offensive then whatever I don’t care.
Thank you!Well you get to work an 8 instead of 8.5. You get to leave 30 min early every day! Your wish has been granted, and I would assume by the union. ?
Probably thinks his lunch break is his 4th through 6th hour tooWell you get to work an 8 instead of 8.5. You get to leave 30 min early every day! Your wish has been granted, and I would assume by the union. ?
Shit everytime I get on position is lunch breakProbably thinks his lunch break is his 4th through 6th hour too
You don’t even know if they tried. Have you emailed anyone to ask what they attempted to negotiate? I bet you can find who was on the negotiating team somewhere. Guess it’s easier to just get on here and talk shit.Argue about stupid shit all you want but it doesn’t answer how pushing it right past a labor friendly administration makes sense
That ain't no guess that is 100% factGuess it’s easier to just get on here and talk shit.
It’s just a question…You don’t even know if they tried. Have you emailed anyone to ask what they attempted to negotiate? I bet you can find who was on the negotiating team somewhere. Guess it’s easier to just get on here and talk shit.