2024 NATCA President Election

So I just got the Notice of Election & Election Rules and I'm curious about Section 3 - Nomination Acceptances:

D. The NEC (National Election Committee) shall determine whether each candidate has correctly submitted his/her nomination acceptance and whether the candidate possesses the necessary qualifications for the proposed office. The NEC shall prepare a report listing each candidate and the office for which he/she has accepted nomination. Each candidate shall be marked "qualified" or "disqualified" on the report, based on the findings of the NEC. If a candidate has been deemed "disqualified", the reason for disqualification shall be stated in the report. The report shall be signed by all five (5) members of the NEC and submitted to the NACTA National Executive Board.

Why do I get the feeling that NEC will screw over jdatc for not possessing the necessary qualifications?
Those qualifications are just meeting the constitutional requirements. Ie: member in good standing.
 
Calling out your boy Nick for being lying opportunist doesn’t mean I’m lying. Your infatuation with him is clouding your judgment. He’s literally done nothing but create the terrible NTI and teach some RT1 classes. He is as political as Rinaldi and 100x less intelligent. He is a danger to our union because when the most important position becomes self serving we’re totally screwed.

If he wanted to screw around as the SW RVP forever that would have been fine with me, he’s not harming the union as a whole then. He could keep playing with that 15 year arbitration case to his hearts content.

I don’t support any candidate I am just vehemently against Nick. His supporters saying on here being against Nick is bad for a facility shows the kind of leader he is. Those tactics won’t work on me. I’ve done enough so far to be able to express my opinions freely.
 
Micks response just made me laugh. He literally slayed Nick and Jamaal with a few sentences. Those dummies put out a 35 minute confusing video and it got rick rolled by a 2 paragraph response. Mick might be the first candidate I openly support. He doesn’t give a fuck about your feelings and it’s about time we had that in office
 
Calling out your boy Nick for being lying opportunist doesn’t mean I’m lying. Your infatuation with him is clouding your judgment. He’s literally done nothing but create the terrible NTI and teach some RT1 classes. He is as political as Rinaldi and 100x less intelligent. He is a danger to our union because when the most important position becomes self serving we’re totally screwed.

If he wanted to screw around as the SW RVP forever that would have been fine with me, he’s not harming the union as a whole then. He could keep playing with that 15 year arbitration case to his hearts content.

I don’t support any candidate I am just vehemently against Nick. His supporters saying on here being against Nick is bad for a facility shows the kind of leader he is. Those tactics won’t work on me. I’ve done enough so far to be able to express my opinions freely.
You are absolutely lying about this whole center. If you truly believe Rich and Mick, you are a part of the lie, or ignorant.

You don't think Rich is self serving???

Rich can't even manage a NiW. He has struck out twice, and I'm not expecting a turn around this year. His legislative failure alone should make him unelectable.

What has Nick done to harm the southwest region? Genuinely curious.

You hate Nick, but are Facebook friends with him.

Again, genuine question. Are you on Richs or Micks campaign team?


I want honesty, transparency and what is best for the people in this Union. Regardless of who is at the top. It is hard to come by, but I know we are closer to those points without Rich.
 
Well I’m not friends with Nick on Facebook so that’s a weird thing to say. I don’t know why you are looking at my Facebook or how you could be that wrong about everything. I would t expect Nick or his supporters to speak any facts though.

I’m also not on any campaigns. It’s time consuming and Im lazy.
 
Micks response just made me laugh. He literally slayed Nick and Jamaal with a few sentences. Those dummies put out a 35 minute confusing video and it got rick rolled by a 2 paragraph response. Mick might be the first candidate I openly support. He doesn’t give a fuck about your feelings and it’s about time we had that in office
Is it me or does it seem like Nick and Jamaal are a little slow? I mean watching and listening to them speak is very distracting and unimpressive.
I liked Mick from the beginning, then Nick comes out….Rinaldi 2.0 but less intelligent.
 
Is it me or does it seem like Nick and Jamaal are a little slow? I mean watching and listening to them speak is very distracting and unimpressive.
I liked Mick from the beginning, then Nick comes out….Rinaldi 2.0 but less intelligent.
It’s because they’re trying to remember all the buzz words Rinaldi would use during election time. The captions on the bottom of their videos can’t even keep up with their word jumble. Turn one on and turn the sound off and read the bottom it reads at a 1st grade level.

They don’t have the intelligence to mimick Rinaldi but they are trying. Their webpage has no answers their videos have no answers they just say oh we have plans but they’re secret but when we’re in you’ll see those awesome plans.
 
What do you think they didn’t fabricate
When I wrote that I felt like the only thing that was wrong/irresponsible that Mick did was lead BUEs to believe it was more of a done deal than it actually was, and now that all have responded I’m sticking with that.

Both sides agree:
-The idea was proposed to the NEB.
-NEB members expressed concerns
-There was consensus not to move forward with the idea.

The only thing that I’ve learned that differs from the initial NE update to now is that it wasn’t “an upgrade” it was “a workgroup to give upgrades” which to me is a big difference. However, I’ve been hearing about ABACUS for so long that it’s a running joke in my facility. So I’ll hold my judgement on which I would have preferred once ABACUS comes out… if ever. I honestly don’t have a horse in this race, but I’ve known about the infighting for some time.
 
When I wrote that I felt like the only thing that was wrong/irresponsible that Mick did was lead BUEs to believe it was more of a done deal than it actually was, and now that all have responded I’m sticking with that.

Both sides agree:
-The idea was proposed to the NEB.
-NEB members expressed concerns
-There was consensus not to move forward with the idea.

The only thing that I’ve learned that differs from the initial NE update to now is that it wasn’t “an upgrade” it was “a workgroup to give upgrades” which to me is a big difference. However, I’ve been hearing about ABACUS for so long that it’s a running joke in my facility. So I’ll hold my judgement on which I would have preferred once ABACUS comes out… if ever. I honestly don’t have a horse in this race, but I’ve known about the infighting for some time.
Both sides absolutely don’t agree there was a consensus not to move forward with the idea.
 
Both sides absolutely don’t agree there was a consensus not to move forward with the idea.
So did they move forward with it? However you want to phrase it, an idea was presented and died in an NEB meeting. That much is known
 
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Calling out your boy Nick for being lying opportunist doesn’t mean I’m lying. Your infatuation with him is clouding your judgment. He’s literally done nothing but create the terrible NTI and teach some RT1 classes. He is as political as Rinaldi and 100x less intelligent. He is a danger to our union because when the most important position becomes self serving we’re totally screwed.

If he wanted to screw around as the SW RVP forever that would have been fine with me, he’s not harming the union as a whole then. He could keep playing with that 15 year arbitration case to his hearts content.

I don’t support any candidate I am just vehemently against Nick. His supporters saying on here being against Nick is bad for a facility shows the kind of leader he is. Those tactics won’t work on me. I’ve done enough so far to be able to express my opinions freely.
Do you have any evidence or examples of him being self serving? Legit question
 
NATCA is going to be the next PASS. Dysfunctional and at impasse for 2 years.
Anyone still paying dues to play come January 2025 about as retarded as it gets.
Man, hop back on here see what's going on in the world of atc, and looks like I picked a good time to jump ship. New levels of toxicity and dysfunction here. Just wow. Outlook not good.

To PASS's benefit.... the faa wanted us back in the office full time, they said not so fast, and negotiated (on a local level based on job, but with natl backing it seems) 1 mandatory office day a week, and I'm allowed to flex the hours on that day to an extent. This natca yall are talking about definitely couldn't have gotten that done. Hell seems like they'd have voted against it for political ammo, which is pathetic to even be think about for a labor union.

Honestly outside looking in now, natca isn't doing a damn thing for you all any other fed union isn't doing besides wesring flip flops to work, and seemingly less at times between this, the PPL debacle, leave, movement, list goes on. Best of luck taking out the trash.
 
So did they move forward with it? However you want to phrase it, an idea was presented and died in an NEB meeting. That much is known
Yeah that’s my point. Why’d it die? The accusation is the NEB killed it. Either they did kill it or the whole thing was a bullshit false promise to begin with. Ask the center facreps what they think. They asked about it a year later and the answer from rich was ‘oh actually that huge monumental game changing plan I advertised was actually killed 7 days after I told you guys about it and I just forgot about that for the past year. So yeah sorry guys I’m the hero trying to protect you from your own RVPs.’
 
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