Enroute Class pass rate

[ClearanceClarence]

I keep hearing a rumor that they are going to change enroute training at the Academy so you're actually working the radar and not just being the assist... anyone know if this is actually true?

There were rumblings years ago they were going to get rid of non radar, and that never even happened.

 

[Somenewguy]

I keep hearing a rumor that they are going to change enroute training at the Academy so you're actually working the radar and not just being the assist... anyone know if this is actually true?

Dang you never even work fake traffic at the academy?

 

[MN]

I keep hearing a rumor that they are going to change enroute training at the Academy so you're actually working the radar and not just being the assist... anyone know if this is actually true?

This is true in addition to non-radar finally getting the ax. Have a coworker who was on some detail overhauling the okc training program. Told me they wanted the change to finally go in effect this fall and that it should. Maybe for the new fiscal year? Who knows. Tower class is getting some changes too.

Dang you never even work fake traffic at the academy?

Well, you kind of do "work" fake traffic, just from the d-side. The r-side at the academy is braindead for whatever reason so it's up to you to tell them to miss traffic and do their job. It's all really stupid.

 

[BPM31694]

This is true in addition to non-radar finally getting the ax. Have a coworker who was on some detail overhauling the okc training program. Told me they wanted the change to finally go in effect this fall and that it should. Maybe for the new fiscal year? Who knows. Tower class is getting some changes too.


Well, you kind of do "work" fake traffic, just from the d-side. The r-side at the academy is braindead for whatever reason so it's up to you to tell them to miss traffic and do their job. It's all really stupid.

Non-radar getting the ax until you come to ZAN. Where our non-radar in the lab is pass/fail lmao.

 

[Redacted]

Non-radar getting the ax until you come to ZAN. Where our non-radar in the lab is pass/fail lmao.

Now I’m curious. Is your non-radar lab like the academy where you’re only working with strips and posting bays? Or is it a radar problem on the scope, but being worked with an inoperative radar?

One, those are two very different things. Providing non-radar separation is way easier when you can actually see a map. Two, reading the technical training order, the only thing gradeable appears to be the three radar evaluations.

 

[Hope]

9/12 Enroute List

Class Finished 4/11
Picked:
x2 ZOB
ZFW
ZDC

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

 

[Hope]

9/19 Enroute List

Class Finished 11/14
Picked:
2 ZFW
1 ZHU
1 ZTL
1 ZNY
1 ZJX
1 ZAB
1 ZAU
1 ZLC
1 ZDV
1 ZMP

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

 

[Hope]

9/24 Enroute List

Class Finished 10/12
Picked:
1 ZFW
2 ZHU
1 ZAU
1 ZDV
1 ZUA
1 ZLA
1 ZMP
1 ZLC
1 HCF

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

 

[Hope]

9/27 Enroute List

Class Finished 5/11
Picked:
2 ZDC
1 ZMA
1 ZTL
1 ZAB

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

 

[bomber996]

Passing average among the last 4 would be 62.5%. That sounds to about check with, or be slightly below the rolling average for EnRoute

 

[Hope]

10/3 Enroute List

Class Finished 7/15
Picked:
2 ZKC
1 ZFW
1 ZDC
1 ZBW
1 ZDV
1 ZTL

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

 

[Hope]

10/8 Enroute List

Class Finished 9/13
Picked:
they went somewhere (nobody reported what they picked)

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

 

[wrench978]

10/8 Enroute List

Class Finished 9/13
Picked:
they went somewhere (nobody reported what they picked)

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Looks like
2 ZLA
1 ZNY
1 ZDC
1 ZMA
2 ZFW
1 ZAU

 

[Hope]

10/16 Enroute List

Class finished 9/11.
Picked:
2 ZHU
2 ZDV
1 ZAN
1 ZAB
1 ZLC
1 ZNY
1 undecided

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

 

[Hope]

10/21 Enroute List

Class finished 12/15
Picked:
ZMP
ZNY
ZKC
ZLC
ZLC
ZHU
still deciding
ZMA
ZSU
ZBW
ZHU
ZDC

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

 

[Logical_Mongoose]

10/21 Enroute List

Class finished 12/15
Picked:
ZMP
ZNY
ZKC
ZLC
ZLC
ZHU
still deciding
ZMA
ZSU
ZBW
ZHU
ZDC

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

The undecided person ended up resigning because they couldn't pick the facility they wanted (wanted ZLC but it was already picked twice). I think that's the first time it has happened for enroute, but it's a little wild to see it trickling up from the terminal side. 😱🤯🤣

It's hard to recruit people with a high-potential to do this job competently whilst telling them they'll have to move somewhere they don't want to live and potentially make less than they can in career fields they are leaving or went to school for.

 

[GulfCharlie]

The undecided person ended up resigning because they couldn't pick the facility they wanted (wanted ZLC but it was already picked twice). I think that's the first time it has happened for enroute, but it's a little wild to see it trickling up from the terminal side. 😱🤯🤣

It's hard to recruit people with a high-potential to do this job competently whilst telling them they'll have to move somewhere they don't want to live and potentially make less than they can in career fields they are leaving or went to school for.

Or even be able to leave in 5-10 years and get home.

 

[Hallock36]

probably should have studied harder and not finished in the bottom half of the class.

 

[PooseMaGoose]

probably should have studied harder and not finished in the bottom half of the class.

Or busted out the ol' checkbook and offered a sum large enough to get one of the two ZLC's to consider a change of heart..

 

[GulfCharlie]

Or busted out the ol' checkbook and offered a sum large enough to get one of the two ZLC's to consider a change of heart..

It has been known to happen. 1000% if it were me I would have.