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CaptainObvious

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There is ZDV just up the road high on the priority list with slots, or am I missing something?
Put in for there as well. But when the only criteria is facility priority it allows you to be beaten out by folks bidding 1-8 in the case of ZDV at number 9
 

jdatc

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Put in for there as well. But when the only criteria is facility priority it allows you to be beaten out by folks bidding 1-8 in the case of ZDV at number 9
Gotcha-

Just seemed like you were saying that there wasn't enough Denver / Colorado spots.

I understand the priority fight if your facility can only release one or 2...
 

X-Ray Lima

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No. Each gaining facility is evaluated separately. You don't get a release "saved" for you simply because you tried to go to a higher priority facility and weren't selected.


I don't get the question. Nothing changed.
No. Each gaining facility is evaluated separately. You don't get a release "saved" for you simply because you tried to go to a higher priority facility and weren't selected.


I don't get the question. Nothing changed.
Green and yellow are mixed up or the meaning.
 

X-Ray Lima

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Who wants to make a phantom NCEPT spreadsheet for the yellow and green facilities? We can bet on the outcome! It would fun to see how close we could get to the real one.
 

Cocoatc

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Whoever gets that Denver spot will be...
... b) an old 'feeder' facility in the district (APA) c) a close friend of the ATM
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

You are having a complete laugh right?
The last APA controller to go to DEN who didn't go as QA/QC, or via re route through LAS etc., got there on a grievance 4 years ago after being passed up in the old system for the ATMs chum buddy.

The only way a CPC from centennial APA is getting there is BECAUSE of ncept.

APA is definitely not a feeder even though there are multiple people who work there wanting to go to DEN.
 

breakaway2000

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Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

You are having a complete laugh right?
The last APA controller to go to DEN who didn't go as QA/QC, or via re route through LAS etc., got there on a grievance 4 years ago after being passed up in the old system for the ATMs chum buddy.

The only way a CPC from centennial APA is getting there is BECAUSE of ncept.

APA is definitely not a feeder even though there are multiple people who work there wanting to go to DEN.
Welp, that's sad.
 
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Outside of needing your facility to be Cat 1 Cat 2, can developmentals submit an ERR? How likely is it that one would get selected?
 

echster

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Outside of needing your facility to be Cat 1 Cat 2, can developmentals submit an ERR? How likely is it that one would get selected?
Some questions can be answered by putting in a little work. See the references provided in the first post of this thread.

From the NCEPT SOP, para. 3.4.2. "Facility certified CPCs shall be considered for placement prior to other employees during the ERR placement process. Employees in training that have never achieved CPC status will be considered on a case-by-case basis."

As for the success of developmentals being able to ERR, the answer is in the NCEPT Meeting Minutes issued after each board where developmental ERRs have been considered.
 

jen_n_juice14

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So it says a release date shall be within 12 months...but does an atm have authority to try and extend the dates beyond that point?
 

breakaway2000

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So it says a release date shall be within 12 months...but does an atm have authority to try and extend the dates beyond that point?
They can waste their time attempting to put in a waiver to deviate from the NRP to extend it past 12 months. They have all been denied.
 
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PalmettoAutobot

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Question, due to staffing levels at our facility and awaiting new hires to be placed at our facility, then the training timeline for them to become a CPC or close to CPC, I'm not seeing anyone being released from our facility for some time (maybe a year or more) if ones package for a facility gets close to the 15 month timeline, and one has to re-sumbit an ERR package, does the time on that list for the facility start over or does it continue?

This is saying what one will wait for a specific facility and only has 1 ERR package in.

I hope this makes sense.
 

MJ

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Question, due to staffing levels at our facility and awaiting new hires to be placed at our facility, then the training timeline for them to become a CPC or close to CPC, I'm not seeing anyone being released from our facility for some time (maybe a year or more) if ones package for a facility gets close to the 15 month timeline, and one has to re-sumbit an ERR package, does the time on that list for the facility start over or does it continue?

This is saying what one will wait for a specific facility and only has 1 ERR package in.

I hope this makes sense.
Starts over.
 

breakaway2000

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Question, due to staffing levels at our facility and awaiting new hires to be placed at our facility, then the training timeline for them to become a CPC or close to CPC, I'm not seeing anyone being released from our facility for some time (maybe a year or more) if ones package for a facility gets close to the 15 month timeline, and one has to re-sumbit an ERR package, does the time on that list for the facility start over or does it continue?

This is saying what one will wait for a specific facility and only has 1 ERR package in.

I hope this makes sense.
ERR time is only relevant if two controllers from the same facility are selected to the same facility one being a Cat 1 selection and the other being a Cat 2 selection. The managers ranking list will determine selection regardless of how long an ERR has been on file. If you believe that could happen in the future, save your ERR receipts.
 

TheD.A.T.

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Not sure if this has been asked yet. I got picked up on the 2/15/18 Ncept from a CAT2 facility. My release date is 3/3/19. This is obviously over the 12 months stated in MOU. Still waiting for a response from HR and management about this. Anybody got any info?
 

GulfBravoPapa

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How do I get a copy of my latest performance appraisal? Last time I bid something I just got it from my supervisor but you've got a website I've never heard of listed...
 

ajmezz

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Easiest to just ask your supervisor. We have a link on cedar to the performance appraisal stuff but I don’t have access. Maybe it’s just for management? Not sure. Sup printed it off within 5min of asking.
 
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