Hardships

[Smitty]

We had a hardship into our BFE nothing tower so a controller could take care of an aging parent.

(Almost*) No one hardships to undesirable facilities.

 

[TopTierBroly]

My ATM refused to agree that my hardship fell within the contract (which it did). I heard this from my facrep. After the timeframe that the ATM was given by the contract I asked her why my paperwork hadn't moved on. She told me she didnt deem it a true hardship even though I provided a written letter from the doctor. My ATM wanted more information. Per my Facrep she wanted to see power of attorney paperwork and shit like that.

Guess what. That'ts not the ATMs job. She never approved my paperwork but sent it to the next level as she has to per the contract. The region approved it instantly and did not ask me for a single piece of paperwork other than the original doctor's note. ATMs like to abuse their power and most of them suck.

How long after it was sent to the region to hear it was approved?

 

[CoffeeIV]

How long after it was sent to the region to hear it was approved?

It took a month. Ask your FacRep who the NATCA hardship representative for your region is and you can potentially e-mail them directly and get more timely info and how to strengthen your case.

 

[abc1234]

What would happen if you were to wash out of a facility you hardship to? Do they offer you a lower level facility in the same area?

 

[Robert_Boucher]

What would happen if you were to wash out of a facility you hardship to? Do they offer you a lower level facility in the same area?

I don't think that's automatic. I would think if there's a spot and it's on the nest list you have you'd have a shot at getting it.

Edit to add:

The employee can incorporate requests for geographical areas or specific facilities into this response, or provide a separate letter with such requests, along with any other related correspondence (e.g. letters of recommendation) to the ATM. The NEST will review all related correspondence submitted by the employee. (EMP Section 1.14a, Section 6d)

 

[Cancan]

Anyone have thoughts on if this qualifies for a hardship transfer? We just found out that my wife has a very high risk pregnancy, and no family where we currently live to support us, so we’re looking to move closer to family. Any advice on how to word the hardship request to make it Bona fide? Our doctor will supply us with a note as well, just need help with the wording.

 

[Phanatical]

Anyone have thoughts on if this qualifies for a hardship transfer? We just found out that my wife has a very high risk pregnancy, and no family where we currently live to support us, so we’re looking to move closer to family. Any advice on how to word the hardship request to make it Bona fide? Our doctor will supply us with a note as well, just need help with the wording.

Your region should have a hardship rep who can help you out. I would expect to answer questions such as what will your family be doing to assist and how frequently are they needed.

 

[Spaceforce]

Anyone have thoughts on if this qualifies for a hardship transfer? We just found out that my wife has a very high risk pregnancy, and no family where we currently live to support us, so we’re looking to move closer to family. Any advice on how to word the hardship request to make it Bona fide? Our doctor will supply us with a note as well, just need help with the wording.

This is a pretty good start below. Also get the doctor to write verbiage to match what the hardship article says. Also mention something about roe vs wade.

Write the letter for your doctor including the verbiage that meets what you are trying to accomplish so all they have to do is sign it, write something convincing, bring in a paper copy and say "This is what my work needs in order to get me to a place where my allergies arent so bad" , or give it to your spouse, dependant child or parent and say "This is what I need to get my kid home to help me during my severe health issue" and "Could you use this as a template as they want these specific words in there in order for it to go through".

Dear sir or maam,

Mr/Mrs. (Smith) current diagnosis of several allergies requires that he or she moves to a region that has previously been proven to abate the symptoms of (XYZ). This is to (improve the health/ receive health services of...).

Mrs. Smith diagnosis of end stage renal failure/stage 4 cancer/sudden severe mental retardation is now requiring a full time care taker that is someone familiar Mrs. Smith and her condition. I am recommending that her son Mr. Clean1 or his wife relocate to (City, State) to become her primary caregiver as her condition will only worsten and require further care.

Signed,
Dr. Sharkbait

She needs family near to support her while you are at work because you can’t get time off/don’t want to leave the FAA mission behind. They will assist in taking her to doctor appointments and pre natal massages. She’s only comfortable with OBGYN “XXX”

 

[Rico]

Anyone have thoughts on if this qualifies for a hardship transfer? We just found out that my wife has a very high risk pregnancy, and no family where we currently live to support us, so we’re looking to move closer to family. Any advice on how to word the hardship request to make it Bona fide? Our doctor will supply us with a note as well, just need help with the wording.

Tampa, Phoenix or Denver? Find a OBGYN in the area that you want to move to, get him/her to treat your wife, and have him/her write a note that she MUST be treated by that office for health of her/baby due to "insert reason". Don't mention the family support at all. Your FACREP is great at these things. You should ask him and not random strangers on the internet.

 

[CoffeeIV]

Your FACREP is great at these things. You should ask him and not random strangers on the internet.

I feel like your mileage may vary on the FacRep helping. The regional hardship person sure, facility rep? Not so much. Especially because some facreps have ulterior motives like trying to keep the facility fat since theyre a lifer there. At least that's how it felt at my last facility and the fact that they didn't really know that much about the whole process/helping me anyways.

 

[Rico]

I feel like your mileage may vary on the FacRep helping. The regional hardship person sure, facility rep? Not so much. Especially because some facreps have ulterior motives like trying to keep the facility fat since theyre a lifer there. At least that's how it felt at my last facility and the fact that they didn't really know that much about the whole process/helping me anyways.

I meant his FACREP specifically, since he is at ZBW.

 

[ClearanceClarence]

Seriously doubt a permanent hardship transfer for a pregnancy that will only last 9 months will be approved. They’ll simply drag the process out until the baby’s born. Or tell you to take FMLA.

 

[Mike Kilo]

Seriously doubt a permanent hardship transfer for a pregnancy that will only last 9 months will be approved. They’ll simply drag the process out until the baby’s born. Or tell you to take FMLA.

I was thinking the same. During and after birth specialist for the child would make more sense if you could sell it.

 

[Bandit117]

Seriously doubt a permanent hardship transfer for a pregnancy that will only last 9 months will be approved. They’ll simply drag the process out until the baby’s born. Or tell you to take FMLA.

They have approved hardships for fertility treatment, as well as cancer. Cancer is temporary one way or the other.

 

[ClearanceClarence]

They have approved hardships for fertility treatment, as well as cancer. Cancer is temporary one way or the other.

Still different though, there’s no set timetable for either of those, but there definitely is with a pregnancy. It also seems the agency has been cracking down on perceived hardship scams as of recently.

 

[causalbatches]

Anyone have thoughts on if this qualifies for a hardship transfer? We just found out that my wife has a very high risk pregnancy, and no family where we currently live to support us, so we’re looking to move closer to family. Any advice on how to word the hardship request to make it Bona fide? Our doctor will supply us with a note as well, just need help with the wording.

I read that as “has a very high risk of pregnancy. Perfect hardship.

 

[Ad1234]

But but but the ncept is screwing us.

 

[GulfCharlie]

But but but the ncept is screwing us.

Negative, NCEPT is working as planned! It’s all these hardships that are bona fide and scammers that are screwing it up! No way it could possibly be our bean counter flawless system!

 

[DADDYSbabyBIRD]

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Anyone have thoughts on if this qualifies for a hardship transfer? We just found out that my wife has a very high risk pregnancy, and no family where we currently live to support us, so we’re looking to move closer to family. Any advice on how to word the hardship request to make it Bona fide? Our doctor will supply us with a note as well, just need help with the wording.

This just sound like exactly what FMLA is for
.. less than a year, don't need to be somewhere else all the time just once in a while to take her to Docs and such. Not a fun situation, but IMO... not a hardship worth moving. Sounds like a DEN,PHX,DFW attempt to me.

 

[CoffeeIV]

Im all for people getting to where they want to go but it's automatically a "high risk pregnancy" if your wife is 35 or older and every hospital handles this. Sounds like a really weak case. Will be funny as hell though if it gets approved and everyone starts having kids to hardship.