OT list not followed

[Duckbutter]

So I know the remedy if you get skipped on the OT list but what if it’s the other way around? I am scheduled to work OT a few weeks in a row and they’ve skipped someone else and I don’t want to work one of the shifts.

 

[liter a cola]

That works where you aren’t scheduled six day work weeks. Plus you want to answer and say no so they add eight hours to your time for denying it.

This is true, once your facility starts scheduling OT you are hosed. Work the OT day and bang out another but once your out of SL you're really up a creek.

As far as having the hours added I kinda like the little game I have going on with screwing with mgmt. If you are really feeling spry on your next mid shift log into wmt and just change your ph number, something that just rings and rings, no VM.

 

[Electricfence]

Thanks for the replies everyone. I talked to a supe and they seemed to acknowledge that it was done incorrectly. Problem is the person who should be assigned the OT is gone on leave now and definitely isn’t going to answer now so I’m going to be stuck with it. I’ll definitely tell them to take the 8 hours I was charged for this off since it shouldn’t have been assigned to me, thanks for that idea.

If you work the OT you’ll be charged the hours. They won’t just not count it because you shouldn’t have got it. That makes no sense. That’ll screw up the OT hours worked for future OT calls.

If the person is on leave and won’t answer either contact them yourself if you want to get them to work it, or have the fac rep reach out, or one of their friends. If they don’t get back, you work the OT and should be charged the hours. And he might get 2 hours of regular pay if they want because he was skipped

 

[Electricfence]

Yeah whoops meant to say I found someone to work it that’s on the No list. So I think given all the circumstances it’s not unreasonable to say I shouldn’t be charged for it.

That’s not how the OT list/assignments work based on the contract.

You are assigned and gave it up, you don’t then get to move back up the list because you didn’t want that particular overtime. Again, this screws up the OT list for future OT assignments. I understand that happens throughout the country at some facilities but it is against how the contract is worded and how the list is supposed to work. Like when refuse an OT shift for a call in, you are still charged the hours. That’s why you don’t pick up if you dont want it….you giving it up is the same exact thing.

 

[Electricfence]

The contract also states that management is supposed maintain an OT list and follow it. Which they didn’t do. So your solution for them not following the rules is to just shut up and take it?

Intentional skip or mistake, they skipped someone. The remedy is contractually defined, no where does it say you get your OT hours removed. Contractually if you then get another overtime based on that removal of hours presumably you’d skip someone else based on actual overtime hours worked and that person would in fact be owed for that slip now. So now you’re asking them to break the contract again, the contract we as the u ion agreed to.

My previous facility had a checklist for OT the sups had to follow. Do you want OT? Do you want to be scheduled OT next to approved leave? Do you want to be called for OT next to approved leave? Some places put ground certified trainees in with the CPCs. Some make them be called last before the no listers. Some are after no listers. Some won’t let any trainee have OT no matter where they are in training. Been to four facilities and non operated exactly the same. Some places don’t even reset your hours yearly.

All of these things are defined in the contract and specified for local operations in the local mou. But this OP talks about none of that just merely states skipped. However I am In fact assuming the employees are of equal qualifications. In some cases sometimes the skip may be acceptable, CIC on a mid for instance.

 

[liter a cola]

The "no" list is where it's at! If I get a OT call I know they are hurting for a body. I answer the call and start negotiating for triple time, if they don't bend to my will I tell them I've been drinking for the past few hours so I can't be charged hours, pro move.

 

[Electricfence]

I shouldn’t have been assigned OT and I’m not actually working it. Not a stretch to believe I shouldn’t be charged for it. We do shit every day that isn’t defined by the contract. You’re basically telling me I should take one for the team because management screwed up. I appreciate your feedback but I guess I don’t see it that way.

I’m not, the contract says that. Until they get a hold of the rightful owner of that OT, its just making it up. Best thing you can do to make sure the contract is followed is do it the way it should be done, you pass you get charged.

I always love the argument we don’t follow rules all the time what’s one more? As of that makes it right.

Edit: see it the way you do all you want but This is one of the easiest problems to fix because how it’s supposed to work as defined and ironed out and written down in advance. The facrep can easily fix this because they negotiated the mou.