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Does TOP count fd/cd-only people and PQ trainees or only CPC’s?

DankVectorz said:

Does TOP count fd/cd-only people and PQ trainees or only CPC’s?

Yeah, but remember the whole NAS has washouts and delayed training skewing their #. N90 is not the only place that has an inefficient training program.

123456 said:

Yeah, but remember the whole NAS has washouts and delayed training skewing their #. N90 is not the only place that has an inefficient training program.

We received over 100 trainees in a 9 month period and then they all almost immediately got put on covid leave. FD/CD sometimes is being rotated between 5 people who can only work fd/cd. And that’s in each area. Not total. But sure, it’s just easy to hate on N90 over everything because some dude knew someone’s cousin who washed out 6 years ago because we want to keep our overtime or because someone on the internet who has never even been to New York says it’s easy and a scam.

DankVectorz said:

We received over 100 trainees in a 9 month period and then they all almost immediately got put on covid leave. FD/CD sometimes is being rotated between 5 people who can only work fd/cd. And that’s in each area. Not total. But sure, it’s just easy to hate on N90 over everything because some dude knew someone’s cousin who washed out 6 years ago because we want to keep our overtime or because someone on the internet who has never even been to New York says it’s easy and a scam.

Sigh. Forgot nobody else nationwide works hard or matters compared to N90

Dousand24 said:

Y’all don’t have shades in your tower to be dealing with sun and glare??

Sometimes shades get stuck halfway or don’t even come down so they are on order and you have to wait 9 months for them. Then because they didn’t think it through as soon as a broken one gets replaced a different one breaks and they didn’t buy any back ups. Lol

DankVectorz said:

We received over 100 trainees in a 9 month period and then they all almost immediately got put on covid leave. FD/CD sometimes is being rotated between 5 people who can only work fd/cd. And that’s in each area. Not total. But sure, it’s just easy to hate on N90 over everything because some dude knew someone’s cousin who washed out 6 years ago because we want to keep our overtime or because someone on the internet who has never even been to New York says it’s easy and a scam.

Buddy let me tell you something. There is a girl that was checked out at N90 that ???? was banging. Her name was ????. She was the worst controller our facility had ever seen. I don’t even want to hear anyone outside of the nyc sector tell me y’all are top dawg. Especially after watching that girl push planes…..

Papacharlie327 said:

Buddy let me tell you something. There is a girl that was checked out at N90 that ???? was banging. Her name was ????. She was the worst controller our facility had ever seen. I don’t even want to hear anyone outside of the nyc sector tell me y’all are top dawg. Especially after watching that girl push planes.

Iirc she was a trainee and never got certified but that was before my time. Also she was in ISP area.

DankVectorz said:

Iirc she was a trainee and never got certified

Not what I heard

CaptainObvious said:

Sigh. Forgot nobody else nationwide works hard or matters compared to N90

Don’t believe I ever said that but if you’re that insecure sure then

Papacharlie327 said:

Not what I heard

I just asked around. She got picked up by San Juan while she was still a trainee even when no Else was able to get a release. She did get checked out a couple months before she left but was picked up well before that. Guess banging the Facrep comes with perks, hardly what I’d use as the litmus test of a facility.

Cmsgthokage said:

Sometimes shades get stuck halfway or don’t even come down so they are on order and you have to wait 9 months for them. Then because they didn’t think it through as soon as a broken one gets replaced a different one breaks and they didn’t buy any back ups. Lol

The only thing I’ve learned from this thread is how obsessed everyone is with n90

That gave me a good chuckle

If you are stuck where you are, the cushiest place is the one you wanna go to and the hardest is the one you’re stuck at.

If you’ve been selected by the NCEPT lottery, the cushiest place is the one you just left and the hardest is the one you’re heading to.

Papacharlie327 said:

The nyc sectors

You keep saying this but what does it mean? As for the chick, like I said that happened long before I was here. What do you want me to tell you? That pissed off everyone here a lot from what I’ve been told, but I can only go off second hand info. That shit happened over 10 years ago, get over it. Name a single facility that hasn’t checked out people that shouldn’t have been checked out.

woodfinx said:

So I did the math, so to speak. by calculating how many operations each CPC is responsible for in 2022 YTD. Center data had to be extrapolated (only had the count through 11/30). PPT current as of 12/28.

ALL DATA IS IN THIS FORMAT
FAC ID - OPS PER CPC - TRAINEE RATIO
(e.g. JFK - 11k - 25%)

HARDEST FACILITIES (Most operations per controller)
TOWER ONLY
1. CNO - 30.5k - 36.4%
2. FFZ - 28.6k - 7.7%
3. BJC - 26.4k - 16.7%
4. MYF - 26.2k - 14.3%
5. PAO - 24.7k - 36.4%
TOWER/RADAR FACILITIES
1. HLN - 34.5k - 25%
2. MIA - 26.5k - 34.8%
3. MYR - 24.7k - 9.1%
4. AUS - 21.5k - 15.8%
5. BNA - 20.5k - 8.8%
APPROACH ONLY
1. L30 - 19.7k - 15.4%
2. D10 - 19k - 26.4%
3. F11 - 17k - 13%
4. S46 - 16.9k - 14.6%
5. U90 - 15.5k - 18.8%
ENROUTE
1. ZUA - 15.9k - 30.8%
2. ZLC - 12.2k - 22.2%
3. ZJX - 12.2k - 23.9%
4. ZLA - 11.8k - 28%
5. ZNY - 11.4k - 30.1%

EASIEST FACILITIES (Least operations per controller)
TOWER ONLY
1. MFD - 1.7k - 7.7%
2. BPT - 1.9k - 16.7%
3. MBS - 2.2k - 20%
4. ERI - 2.5k - 16.7%
5. LAN - 2.7k - 15.4%
TOWER/RADAR FACILITIES
1. SUX - 2.6k - 13.3%
2. BGM - 2.8k - 12.5%
3. HTS - 2.9k - 10.5%
4. ELM - 3.2k - 12.5%
5. YNG - 3.7k - 15.8%
APPROACH ONLY
1. P31 - 8.4k - 11.1%
2. D21 - 9.1k - 17.2%
3. PCT - 9.1k - 8.2%
4. M98 - 9.9k - 27.1%
5. NCT - 11.4k - 12.7%
ENROUTE
1. ZAN - 7.2k - 21.6%
2. ZAU - 7.3k - 18.4%
3. ZOB - 7.4k - 16.1%
4. ZSU - 7.6k - 42.4%
5. ZSE - 8.3k - 20.3%
(HCF and JCF both have less than 2k ops per controller)

For my entire career YNG puts out GI TADOC messages every day when they close and open as if anyone cares. You guys don't have to do that, we'll all be okay.

ta94 said:

The only thing I’ve learned from this thread is how obsessed everyone is with n90

Most overrated facility in the NAS

Damn D10 slowly dying quietly in the corner because you never hear about them. Had no idea they worked more traffic than C90 and A80

DidYouDoYourNATPRO said:

Damn D10 slowly dying quietly in the corner because you never hear about them. Had no idea they worked more traffic than C90 and A80

So far this year, the top 10 TRACONs in ops are SCT, N90, NCT, PCT, D10, MIA, A80, C90, D01 and I90.

bravounite33 said:

So far this year, the top 10 TRACONs in ops are SCT, N90, NCT, PCT, D10, MIA, A80, C90, D01 and I90.

All 10 level 12 tracons in the NAS are the busiest tracons in the NAS?

bravounite33 said:

So far this year, the top 10 TRACONs in ops are SCT, N90, NCT, PCT, D10, MIA, A80, C90, D01 and I90.

Yeah and D10 has like... 20% of the airspace as those consolidated TRACONs? With what, like 60 controllers? Fuuuuuuck that