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JTL2ATC

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How likely is it that you will get a perfect score on the final though? Is it even remotely possible? (I assume 70 is passing)
For a person going into it with a 4? I’d say next to impossible. If someone got a 4 through all of the academics and non-radar problems, they either don’t get it or they aren’t applying themselves. Even the worst people in our class stuck it out until they were told to leave.
 
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For a person going into it with a 4? I’d say next to impossible. If someone got a 4 through all of the academics and non-radar problems, they either don’t get it or they aren’t applying themselves. Even the worst people in our class stuck it out until they were told to leave.
I assume that too haha. What would you say the average score is for the final? I've read some entries where people completely lose their nerve and others perform flawlessly so I have no real frame of reference what one can expect.
 

JTL2ATC

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I assume that too haha. What would you say the average score is for the final? I've read some entries where people completely lose their nerve and others perform flawlessly so I have no real frame of reference what one can expect.
I have no idea what an average score is, honestly. In basics they told us that the absolute minimum you should take into ERAM evals is a 26. A guy in our class had 32+/34 going into ERAM and finished 2nd or 3rd from the bottom. There is no frame of reference to go off of. Class rankings don’t mean shit until you get to ERAM. Just because someone can take multiple choice tests better than you doesn’t mean they’re going to play the Academy ATC Game better than you. Don’t be cocky and think your success will be automatic, but be confident in what you know and don’t second guess yourself. Self doubt is the biggest factor I noticed in those that failed.
 

bob smith

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I have no idea what an average score is, honestly. In basics they told us that the absolute minimum you should take into ERAM evals is a 26. A guy in our class had 32+/34 going into ERAM and finished 2nd or 3rd from the bottom. There is no frame of reference to go off of. Class rankings don’t mean shit until you get to ERAM. Just because someone can take multiple choice tests better than you doesn’t mean they’re going to play the Academy ATC Game better than you. Don’t be cocky and think your success will be automatic, but be confident in what you know and don’t second guess yourself. Self doubt is the biggest factor I noticed in those that failed.
I would say the scores average out to somewhere around 70. Totally doable to get a 100 on the easy problem no doubt.
 

bomber996

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I found it funny that the more nervous I was for the eval the better I performed. I mathematically passed on my first two and my 3rd scenario was my worst one. 98/89/71

The evals are not overly complex or difficult, you just need to know what to do, do it, and not have to think about it. If you are able to do everything correctly the first time the scenarios are not hard. If you fumble with a flight plan entry or something similar the scenarios WILL snowball and you will miss stuff. The scenarios are mostly busy work, and there is a lot of it.

Only two people ever have got three 100s on their scenarios. Get the easy points early on and you'll make your life a lot easier. I went in with over 33 points and needed to average a 59 on all three. I saw one guy go in with 15 points and he needed to average an 80 among all three. Needless to say, that person didn't make it.
 

NN9419

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Keep in mind as well, a huge amount of discretion is left in the hands of the Evaluators. Most are generally fair, but there are a few hard asses that if you get them, you’re likely going to be in trouble. I had 0 A1’s and missed 0 point outs in my first eval, but the dude slapped me with a 40. Literally wrote up EVERY little mistake, and a bunch of “controller judgement” errors which can basically be anything. Luckily I did well on my next two and passed, but beware, a lot of it can come down to who you get as an Evaluator and when.
 

njeezy08

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I have no idea what an average score is, honestly. In basics they told us that the absolute minimum you should take into ERAM evals is a 26. A guy in our class had 32+/34 going into ERAM and finished 2nd or 3rd from the bottom. There is no frame of reference to go off of. Class rankings don’t mean shit until you get to ERAM. Just because someone can take multiple choice tests better than you doesn’t mean they’re going to play the Academy ATC Game better than you. Don’t be cocky and think your success will be automatic, but be confident in what you know and don’t second guess yourself. Self doubt is the biggest factor I noticed in those that failed.
Disagree hardcore with the 26 number. They try and scare people with a speech about how "I've never seen anyone with a 25 going into radar pass".. at least we got that speech at the very end of the course. Well wouldn't you know, right on cue.. Our 2 lowest people in the class who had a 25 PASSED pretty comfortably, while the highest dude who had a 33 FAILED after the first day.

Don't listen to anything anyone tells you about numbers. If you go in with the mindset that you need a 70% on each of the radar evals, you'll pass.. That's exactly what the mentality I had was. I would get row instructors on my last day ask me what I needed to pass and all I said was "I have no idea, all I really care about is getting above a 70%"

I got a 80/84/72 on mine, the last being my most nerve racking and where I missed a point out.
 
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