32andBelow
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The 7210.3 is pointless cus they are going to have to change ir with whatever changes go through anyways
New time off between shifts mandate. Big change
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bravounite33
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I assumed he meant most people don't even know the 7210.3 has any BWS rules in it (which is true). The contract isn't the only guiding document
It’s a simple change to the 2 rules in question. There are a boatload of other ones that aren’t changing and still apply. So it’s really not pointless. Maybe in your mind because you think you know everything, or you aren’t negotiating your schedules.
You can work 4-10 straight MIDs.
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My point is they can change more rules to make this work the way they want to. So current rules shouldn’t be taken as hard lines that can’t be negotiated against
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The 6 hour shift idea doesn't work because you will have one pay period with only 78 hours and another with 82.
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Yes and no. It's an issue yes but it's easy to rectify but facilities have to have a plan for it. Similar thing happens today on the Sat night mid. Some facilities start that mid at 10pm instead of 12am and depending on what they've done that pay period, it can throw things off but they make it work.
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Though as 32 points out, they're going to be changing that list of rules anyway... we'll just have to wait another 18 hours and see what happens when the MOU drops tomorrow.
I'm not seeing anything in a search of the CBA about maximum allowed midnights or length of midnights. The only mentions are Article 32 Sections 2 and 3 (nothing about length), Article 33 Section 5 (length of recuperative breaks on mids), and Appendix M (what parameters OPAS will have, OPAS being the replacement for WMT scheduler, loooooool).
My point earlier exactly. You guys don’t know what you’re talking about. 7210.3 read the rules
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Did Natca National just send out an email to everyone that they intended to only go to Fac Reps? 🤣
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Definitely not happening, it's impossible, etc
and it had guidance from 2016 attached.
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We are 8 days away from the “count”, so this doesn’t really impact the outcome for me as far as the election but let me blunt from why I ran to now. Our Union has lost its way, from drinking and partying to the lack of moving our work environment, pay, and benefits forward we are suffering the...
The person working from 0700 all the way through the evening until 0300 in the morning ofc
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These morons can’t even get an email right.
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Unbelievably inept… just keep giving these people your money though!
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So the first email says "The training will also incorporate the new fatigue rules". Which I'm assuming means they have that done since they listed the training dates as this week. So the controllers will probably be the last to know? Cool. Standard ops.
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It’s going to be the literal rules that were announced the first day and everyone knows it
Jesus Mike your own wife applied for a 114. You guys gotta stop vilifying our own people.and it had guidance from 2016 attached.
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We are 8 days away from the “count”, so this doesn’t really impact the outcome for me as far as the election but let me blunt from why I ran to now. Our Union has lost its way, from drinking and partying to the lack of moving our work environment, pay, and benefits forward we are suffering the...www.redmond4evp.com
No it won’t. But it’ll be retarded.
First off, I have never vilified, my stance has and always will be that most should stay current. They vilify themselves on their own. They are removed from the pain our members feel every day and no way should some of them have been off the boards for half their career.
Secondly, my expectation for all our representatives and my spouses had she been selected would fall into that same category. Some of our closest friends are 114 reps, I call it how I truly believe it should be. But it is really a moot point isn't it, because she isn't one, mostly because she has never bowed down to be in the "little club".
Lastly, the point of the post is that our leadership is removed, they are all on the board or a 114 rep that has been off the board for years running for national positions, except for myself and Justin.
Obviously, I have no issue letting people know who I am, you going to hide behind a screen name or come out? Easy to be a keyboard warrior.
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