3rd Quarter 2017

[ATOH]

KSN and Natca sites post the selections. Last two panels this was midday on Friday. HR calls within the next week with verbal offer followed by TOL and then FOL once all your clearances are done and your release date is set .

 

[Andrew]

I've thought about trying that multiple times, let me know how that goes, haha.
We used to be able to see the manager's ranking list, once they went to the new members only format it isn't publicly available.
I'd feel awesome if my facility could let 3 go like you guys. For me it really comes down to if someone who has absolutely no chance of certifying put in for LAX.

I'm going to ask for access and see if mr. Mcmillian lets me in and maybe I can see manager ranking list tomorrow lol? Worth a shot man. We can release 2 and the only person I know about at my facility wants DEN which I can't believe they moved up to #3 and eligible to select 4!!

 

[breakaway2000]

We can't release anyone right now so it doesn't matter, but I would imagine that a lot of those LAX slots get filled

It's that exact reason why these next 10 days will be agonizing.

A lot = anyone with a pulse goes

Nothing more frustrating then somebody taking a spot that has no chance of certifying.

 

[AirTC2016]

I know of one at my husband’s facility who wants DEN too.. maybe even two people. We have TPA as one of our spots.. went from picking up 2 to releasing 3.. their current staffing level is 86.8... BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE! They are projected at 92 but still.. How is a facility CURRENTLY below the National Average and able to release 3?!

 

[ATOH]

I know of one at my husband’s facility who wants DEN too.. maybe even two people. We have TPA as one of our spots.. went from picking up 2 to releasing 3.. their current staffing level is 86.8... BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE! They are projected at 92 but still.. How is a facility CURRENTLY below the National Average and able to release 3?!

86.8 is above the national average.

 

[AirTC2016]

The National Average isn’t 87.9?

 

[Stinger]

The National Average isn’t 87.9?

The projected average is.
Current CPC average is 82.2%. TPA is at 86.8%.
Projected average is 87.9%. TPA is projected 92.0%.

 

[AirTC2016]

Thank you for the clarification. 🙂

 

[Move78]

We've got 3 known for LAX. I wouldn't be worried about N90 since it's bid only

LAX sounds like a nightmare, keep itttttttttttt

 

[Terry]

When does management turn in their rankings?

 

[rugbydog11]

I wonder how many people have DEN filed... I would bet over 100. I have compiled a crazy list of how its going to unfold for my facility.

 

[Andrew]

When does management turn in their rankings?

Tomorrow June 5th

 

[GO]

A place like Denver I am strongly thinking all spots will be filled but I wonder if all LAX and ZTL spots will be filled this panel or if they will carry over to the next? Thoughts?

 

[breakaway2000]

A place like Denver I am strongly thinking all spots will be filled but I wonder if all LAX and ZTL spots will be filled this panel or if they will carry over to the next? Thoughts?

Even in the beginning when only a handful of facilities were eligible, DEN had 20+ ERRs. With how many facilities are eligible, the 100 number quoted above is probably pretty accurate. Considering LAX had 1 eligible ERR last panel, they will still have spots, same with ZTL (only 4 eligible last panel).

 

[GO]

Even in the beginning when only a handful of facilities were eligible, DEN had 20+ ERRs. With how many facilities are eligible, the 100 number quoted above is probably pretty accurate. Considering LAX had 1 eligible ERR last panel, they will still have spots, same with ZTL (only 4 eligible last panel).

I thought ZTL may fill because of good pass rate, high pay and decent cost of living. Takes a special person to want the humidity and traffic load though. Meanwhile LAX is really hurting on people, crazy traffic and don't get started on California living expenses

 

[Andrew]

A place like Denver I am strongly thinking all spots will be filled but I wonder if all LAX and ZTL spots will be filled this panel or if they will carry over to the next? Thoughts?

I just wonder if there's 16 people eligible for ZTL I have in for there and still wonder if they'll pass on me being terminal.

 

[GO]

I just wonder if there's 16 people eligible for ZTL I have in for there and still wonder if they'll pass on me being terminal.

I have one into there as well, so there is as least two gunning for it... I hope we both get it!

 

[breakaway2000]

Also, in terms of staffing 9 and belows to 100%. I've gone up and down the ladder without a concrete answer. In terms of the last panel, BUF could pick up "0" but they were above the national average and below 100%. They did end up getting 1.
Best educated guess is if people are still eligible after they've exhausted the eligible spots from facilities below the national average, they will then be looked at to staff 9 and below facilities to 100%.
My advice for anyone who thinks this could apply to them. Be prepared with a grievance if

A) Your facility was still Cat I or Cat II after the completion of the NCEPT and you weren't looked at for 9 and below facilities between the national average and 100%.
B) Your facility was still Cat I or Cat II after the first NCEPT pass and someone else at your facility got selected for a 9 or below that was lower on the priority list then one you had in for.

 

[breakaway2000]

I just wonder if there's 16 people eligible for ZTL I have in for there and still wonder if they'll pass on me being terminal.

I have one into there as well, so there is as least two gunning for it... I hope we both get it!

Hopefully we'll all meet up there.

 

[GO]

Also, in terms of staffing 9 and belows to 100%. I've gone up and down the ladder without a concrete answer. In terms of the last panel, BUF could pick up "0" but they were above the national average and below 100%. They did end up getting 1.
Best educated guess is if people are still eligible after they've exhausted the eligible spots from facilities below the national average, they will then be looked at to staff 9 and below facilities to 100%.
My advice for anyone who thinks this could apply to them. Be prepared with a grievance if

A) Your facility was still Cat I or Cat II after the completion of the NCEPT and you weren't looked at for 9 and below facilities between the national average and 100%.
B) Your facility was still Cat I or Cat II after the first NCEPT pass and someone else at your facility got selected for a 9 or below that was lower on the priority list then one you had in for.

Thanks for this... It could become a factor at my facility if I do not get picked up at any of the ARTCCs I applied for. Luckily my facilities also include a few 8s that are higher up on the priority list then my coworkers 9 and below. Shall be interesting to see how this plays out!