Boeing Contract Proposal

AB19 said:
Crazy what being able to strike gets you
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: striking (while obliviously effective) is not the only means to get a raise. The problem is, our union sends internal election campaign content to membership saying we’re underpaid and need a raise, but ‘in front of the cameras’ they don’t say a damn thing. They don’t tell congress we’re underpaid. They don’t tell the media we’re underpaid. Literally nothing has been done to pursue this, or even set the stage for the next contract negotiations. We are never going to get something we don’t ask for.
 
Whiskey Charlie said:
I love that we can’t legally strike, yet congress essentially does this with every budget and continuing resolution. They don’t like what they see, they threaten to or do shutdown the government in retaliation.
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“You are too big a piece on the board to be paid during the shutdown.”
 
Obviously it won't happen... because f us... but for all the time NATCA puts into emails telling us they support every other union in their strikes and yada yada.... maybe those unions could be mutually supportive of us and take some kind of work action on our behalf to pressure the government to act.

You'd think the airline unions would have an active investment in ensuring our pay attracts the kind of talent that will keep their members safe in the skies.
 
ATCJoe85 said:
Obviously it won't happen... because f us... but for all the time NATCA puts into emails telling us they support every other union in their strikes and yada yada.... maybe those unions could be mutually supportive of us and take some kind of work action on our behalf to pressure the government to act.

You'd think the airline unions would have an active investment in ensuring our pay attracts the kind of talent that will keep their members safe in the skies.
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That's what I have been thinking, we're awfully supportive of everyone else while being ignored, even by our own union.
 
js1031 said:
Don't forget they're laying off 10% of the workforce...

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I would very much expect those layoffs to disproportionately miss the unionized workforce that's actually assembling the planes they already have on backorder. Probably going to be a bloodbath for a lot of low level data entry type and mid-level white collar folks.

It's similar to the BS headline that's popped up this past week of "french fry manufacturer laying off workforce because of McDonald's $5 meal promotion." Lamb Wesson is laying off 4% of its workforce that produces 5% of its product because they did the math that they can exploit the labor more at other plants to pick up the slack and cut costs even further. They've had no problem issuing over $300M in stock buybacks this past year. Businesses want you to think they themselves can't afford to bring prices down, when the reality is that they can't afford to bring prices down and still squeeze you for even more money.
 
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js1031 said:
Don't forget they're laying off 10% of the workforce...

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Nobody forgot, but thanks?

Are those being laid off losing pensions (if they had one) without compensation? Are they grossly understaffed? If not, there is NO reason to bring this up (Well, unless you're a cuck union "leader" who is trying to convince the workforce that your own inadequacies in representing us isn't the problem). Because if not for the pensions, at least 10% of us would be happy to be put out of our misery by being let go- and if we weren't already grossly understaffed, we'd ultimately be better off.
 
ClearanceClarence said:
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: striking (while obliviously effective) is not the only means to get a raise. The problem is, our union sends internal election campaign content to membership saying we’re underpaid and need a raise, but ‘in front of the cameras’ they don’t say a damn thing. They don’t tell congress we’re underpaid. They don’t tell the media we’re underpaid. Literally nothing has been done to pursue this, or even set the stage for the next contract negotiations. We are never going to get something we don’t ask for.
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Case in point to my last comment, what is blatantly missing from NATCA’s post this morning commemorating “International Day of the Controller?”
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For whatever reason, they refuse to even mention our pay.
 
ClearanceClarence said:
Case in point to my last comment, what is blatantly missing from NATCA’s post this morning commemorating “International Day of the Controller?”


For whatever reason, they refuse to even mention our pay.
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Wow.

Leadership is fat and happy, I guess.
 

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