Sloppycobb13
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We really went 8/8……. Act surprised.
That's great for you guys congrats! Anything you saw that worked well for all of you to prepare?We really went 8/8……. Act surprised.
Thanks for this, cleared my head after scrolling past all the hate on this thread regarding the 50% pass rate last week. What was with all that?This is is definitely a good mindset to keep, but it's naive to to believe that luck doesn't play a huge part in this process.
50% is normal. 100% is not normalThanks for this, cleared my head after scrolling past all the hate on this thread regarding the 50% pass rate last week. What was with all that?
It's just upsetting knowing that you could go through this process and lose job in a way that feels unfair. I've had to come to grips with that myself. It takes years after applying to finally get to the academy, and even if you're the most talented and work your ass off, you might get a few bad breaks and get sent home. I'm personally okay with that. Not that I think it's the "best" system. I'm just at peace with it. I'm hoping for the best and will fight hard for the job, but I know it might just not happen due to reasons beyond my control.Thanks for this, cleared my head after scrolling past all the hate on this thread regarding the 50% pass rate last week. What was with all that?
50% is normal. 100% is not normal
No this is a course that you can study harder than anyone and fail. While a “lazy” person who didn’t study once can finish first in the classYes sir, we know the pass rates. I was asking what was with all the hate this time.
If it's so damn hard then smart people are going to try their actual best and not make it. I think people have gotta choose to either be a hardass about how hardcore it is, or else suggest that failure is a result of a character defect like laziness. Trying to hit from both sides is a flag for survivorship bias, and those of us out here trying to get our heads straight about this thing shouldn't have to deal with that.
(Not suggesting you're doing that, I can't remember what you specifically have posted—I just wanted to push back at the energy of that part of the conversation.)
We've been told many times by multiple instructors, "It takes a certain way of thinking to be a controller, its either you got it or you don't"No this is a course that you can study harder than anyone and fail. While a “lazy” person who didn’t study once can finish first in the class
You can also have a guy who goes into evals with a 24 end up top 3 in the class and someone who was #1 all class heading into evals (scoring a 99 and 100 in non radar) be knocked out after 2 problems and escorted out first dayNo this is a course that you can study harder than anyone and fail. While a “lazy” person who didn’t study once can finish first in the class
Were you reading the thread? The hate is the fact that FAA has designed an extremely difficult course that weeds out a lot of good applicants, and they're apparently going out of their way to make it harder when staffing is abysmal across the whole NAS. A class full of really strong students shouldn't go 4/8 because they came up with some new 'gotcha' evals. The academy and their grading process is just too subjective.Yes sir, we know the pass rates. I was asking what was with all the hate this time.
If it's so damn hard then smart people are going to try their actual best and not make it. I think people have gotta choose to either be a hardass about how hardcore it is, or else suggest that failure is a result of a character defect like laziness. Trying to hit from both sides is a flag for survivorship bias, and those of us out here trying to get our heads straight about this thing shouldn't have to deal with that.
How do we really know they would have been successful in the field?….the fact that FAA has designed an extremely difficult course that weeds out a lot of good applicants….
Salt lake getting some AGs recently. Don’t forget to deduct 10% from AG pay for titheList for class evaling 10/13-10/14. Class of 5 that had 2 moved to another class due to contact tracing during non-radar:
ZLC
ZLC
ZHU
ZHU
ZKC
ZAU
ZME
Alternates:
ZOA
ZOA
Just depends on the facility, at my center everything is so backed up we aren't starting D-side training until next fall.Assuming one passes the academy, whats the time frame for getting that first D1 raise? CPC I know can be anywhere from 3-6 years
Dang. Next Fall? That was our centers original date but our train department has been hauling ass and all of our backlog will be done before Christmas this year. When I arrived mid June there were 60 students ready for D school. I am the last class of 8 which we start early November. There will be the R school backlog in a few months thoughJust depends on the facility, at my center everything is so backed up we aren't starting D-side training until next fall.
JFC. That's efficient. What fac are you at?Dang. Next Fall? That was our centers original date but our train department has been hauling ass and all of our backlog will be done before Christmas this year. When I arrived mid June there were 60 students ready for D school. I am the last class of 8 which we start early November. There will be the R school backlog in a few months though
ZOBJFC. That's efficient. What fac are you at?