I RPO’d on an eval for a dude in my class for nonradar… I called for the VKS departure.. he ignored.. kept doing things, clearing deals left and right… examiner tells me to call again.. I call… he looks at me and the examiner and goes “this planes not getting off the ground, keep calling all you want, but it ain’t happening”….. he also released zero people in radar… just let that phone ring and ring and ring and ring… he failed with flying colors. Cracks me up. He thought he cracked the secret code saying “can’t get an A1 if I don’t release em”
No doubt!! Those Norwegian fucks, where pepper is too spicey, meat and potatoes diet, and ketchup is all one needs ?
Yeah I left 3.5yrs ago but I heard the new ATM isn’t the best. I enjoyed it though, if MN was home I’d a been happy to stay and rot away in Area 2
Yes especially with classmates that are selfish and don’t want to study together or help each other out, and then a shitty instructor on top of that.
Originally a class of 8. Picked up 4 more from the previous class due to covid quarantines.
What a GOAT list
is ZOA really as bad as people make it out to be?
I think it’s the cost of living in the Bay Area on AG pay more than anything. Could be wrong tho
That and the fact it could take over a year to get into a d-side class
Been here since November. I was expecting the worst and hoping for the best, and so far the only detractors are the COL (high, but managle) and the wait for a D-side class (If I'm in before next winter it will be a godsend). The people are great, the atmosphere is laid back, the weather is fantastic, and where I chose to live is exactly what i like, but that experience is gonna vary because the bay area can go from cool to lock-your-car-doors pretty fast.
What area did you choose to live in if you don’t mind me asking?
Tri-valley: Pleasanton, Dublin, Livermore. It's no more expensive than Fremont, really.
Weather isn't quite as good. I like Dublin though.
I would say it’s definitely not as bad as people make it out to be. The COL is for sure the main issue. The training back up sucks too, but while you’re waiting for a class it’s easy to get a side gig. You get out at 3-3:30 every day and have every weekend off while you wait. That can make AG pay more bearable.
I know a few people who work at ZOA or ZNY or towers near there on AG pay, a lot of them just did Doordash, Instacart, side hustles like that and make really good money and maybe only do it 10-20 hours a week. There's 168 hours in a week and there's 128 left after the average ATC week to do something for a little extra money to make living in these areas manageable
