Enroute Class pass rate

[PlaneFlasher]

Is this a class that was split into two small groups and then evaluated as 12 or they went back all together as a class of 12?

All the classes of more than 8 were split but given the same list.

 

[PlaneFlasher]

Faa evaluators getting warmed up

???

I evaled a few weeks ago and one of the evaluators that gave us the FAA briefing before jokingly referred to himself as the "Dream Killer". Of course I go first and walk into the lab and sure enough "Dream Killer" is grading me. He said my run was near perfect . . . .I got a 68.

 

[Mike Kilo]

???

I evaled a few weeks ago and one of the evaluators that gave us the FAA briefing before jokingly referred to himself as the "Dream Killer". Of course I go first and walk into the lab and sure enough "Dream Killer" is grading me. He said my run was near perfect . . . .I got a 68.

Damn if a 69/100 to him is near perfect I’d hate to see his wife ?

 

[32andBelow]

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I evaled a few weeks ago and one of the evaluators that gave us the FAA briefing before jokingly referred to himself as the "Dream Killer". Of course I go first and walk into the lab and sure enough "Dream Killer" is grading me. He said my run was near perfect . . . .I got a 68.

Well what did he write you for.

 

[tunwno]

Both non Radar and Radar evaluations is like 60% confidence 40% what you know.

 

[PlaneFlasher]

Well what did he write you for.

Only major error was a missed readback. If I remember correctly, the rest of the points were judgment errors.

All of the evaluators seemed to be fair . . . 2/5 seemed to be stricter than others when our class compared notes.

 

[32andBelow]

Only major error was a missed readback. If I remember correctly, the rest of the points were judgment errors.

That’s ridiculous. I ran a perfect run and the guy gave me 98 and took off 2 for deadwood. He just didn’t have the 100 in him.

 

[PlaneFlasher]

That’s ridiculous. I ran a perfect run and the guy gave me 98 and took off 2 for deadwood. He just didn’t have the 100 in him.

Has to take some points so the FAA knows he was paying attention.

I'm not complaining just happy to have passed. It's just crazy to me how small the difference between a good and great score is in Radar. Before finishing, I did not understand how so many people fail but now I know.

 

[32andBelow]

Has to take some points so the FAA knows he was paying attention.

I'm not complaining just happy to have passed. It's just crazy to me how small the difference between a good and great score is in Radar. Before finishing, I did not understand how so many people failed but now I know.

Sometimes it just comes down to your voice tone. That goes all the way through training. You can easily have a deal and have your trainer miss it too if you sound like you know what you’re doing.

 

[ABACUS]

I said the wrong frequency for a sector every single freq change on an eval and the guy never even flinched because I said it with 100% confidence.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

Damn, sucks that they lost Kansas City, Miami, and Dallas.

I heard one of the trainees who failed there got their ass beat in the parking lot by someone who was so pissed that blew their chance at ZFW, that is really piling on.

 

[ABACUS]

I heard one of the trainees who failed there got their ass beat in the parking lot by someone who was so pissed that blew their chance at ZFW, that is really piling on.

My ass...

 

[32andBelow]

I heard one of the trainees who failed there got their ass beat in the parking lot by someone who was so pissed that blew their chance at ZFW, that is really piling on.

Lmao did he get fired?

 

[Counterclockwise]

I heard one of the trainees who failed there got their ass beat in the parking lot by someone who was so pissed that blew their chance at ZFW, that is really piling on.

Don’t you get escorted out if you fail lol?

 

[FightingIrish2012]

I was just joking but it wouldn’t surprise me if something like that happen at some point lol.

 

[ONE]

8/12 passed. Facilities selected:

ZLC
ZAU
ZKC
ZID
ZID
ZTL
ZSU
ZOA

If you don't mind me asking, what made the 4 fail? Was the radar eval just super hard?

 

[JTL2ATC]

If you don't mind me asking, what made the 4 fail? Was the radar eval just super hard?

Could be any number of things. There are people who go into radar evals “technically” able to pass. Y’know, go into it with 4 total points and need 3 perfect runs. Miss one point and you’re done. Some people go in at the top of their class and completely blow it under pressure.
The people who failed out of our class decided to have the evaluator come get their stuff because they were too embarrassed to face the class. No goodbyes or anything.

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

If you don't mind me asking, what made the 4 fail? Was the radar eval just super hard?

They scored below 70/100.

 

[32andBelow]

They scored below 70/100.

F

 

[ONE]

They scored below 70/100.

Thanks buddy now let’s hear the non smartass answer!