Retirement MRA Retirement

[dbs907]

i have questions regarding retirement,
-How can your make it to your MRA when we are forced out at 56?
-If you work lets say 25 years as a controller (20 years good time at 1.7%) then after 25 years you get a new government job (outside of aviation), then you work till your MRA. Will the other five years of "good time" convert to 1.7% ?
- what if you work till 56 and are then forced out and it takes you a while to find another government position (lets say two years) because you want to hit your MRA. do you owe the government two years of service? can you retire after 5 minutes of work at your new job and meet MRA requirements??

 

[MJ]

I can answer the first two.

-How can your make it to your MRA when we are forced out at 56?

As a controller, you can't. You would have to get another position.

-If you work lets say 25 years as a controller (20 years good time at 1.7%) then after 25 years you get a new government job (outside of aviation), then you work till your MRA. Will the other five years of "good time" convert to 1.7% ?

No. Only time spent as a line controller is at the 1.7 rate.

Retirement - MRA+30 is another recent thread about this.

 

[rugbydog11]

I can answer the first two.

As a controller, you can't. You would have to get another position.


No. Only time spent as a line controller is at the 1.7 rate.

Retirement - MRA+30 is another recent thread about this.

Yes. The other 5 years as 2152 would go to 1.7.

 

[MJ]

Yes. The other 5 years as 2152 would go to 1.7.

Not this time!
https://pointsixtyfive.com/files/misc/ATC Vision 100 FAQs.pdf

 

[rugbydog11]

Not this time!
https://pointsixtyfive.com/files/misc/ATC Vision 100 FAQs.pdf

Lol... I think he is saying 25 years as a line controller. And is mixing up good time with being exclusively 1.7. Thats the way I read the original question "25 years as a controller then a job outside of aviation"

 

[dbs907]

Lol... I think he is saying 25 years as a line controller. And is mixing up good time with being exclusively 1.7. Thats the way I read the original question "25 years as a controller then a job outside of aviation"

yes thats what i ment

 

[dbs907]

still curious.. if i work till 56 then forced out, and it takes me however long to find another government job, what do i have to do/how long do i have to work to get the 1.7 for my air traffic years

 

[dbs907]

to get 1.7 for all years is it work till 57 OR 30+ years? i was hired at 23 so i could get 30 years before 57..

 

[MikeDelta]

Let's say I get hired at 37, do I get to do my 20 or am I out at 56?

 

[MJ]

Lol... I think he is saying 25 years as a line controller. And is mixing up good time with being exclusively 1.7. Thats the way I read the original question "25 years as a controller then a job outside of aviation"

yes thats what i ment

Ah ok, then yeah, all CPC time is @ 1.7

Let's say I get hired at 37, do I get to do my 20 or am I out at 56?

You would be forced out on the end of the first month you're eligible to retire with 20 yrs.

to get 1.7 for all years is it work till 57 OR 30+ years? i was hired at 23 so i could get 30 years before 57..

Both. Read the FAQ and the other thread I linked a couple posts up for more info.

still curious.. if i work till 56 then forced out, and it takes me however long to find another government job, what do i have to do/how long do i have to work to get the 1.7 for my air traffic years

To walk thought it... for example, 32 years controlling, forced out at 56. Wait a year, start a new federal job, on 57th birthday... retire next day. Seems like it meets the requirements. I don't see anywhere the time needing to be contiguous.

 

[HenryTheAce]

So jobs such as OMIC and other jobs in ATC that don’t require a medical or forced 56 retirement is a good way to go the last year or two of your career to get the 1.7 for every year served as a controller?

 

[rugbydog11]

So jobs such as OMIC and other jobs in ATC that don’t require a medical or forced 56 retirement is a good way to go the last year or two of your career to get the 1.7 for every year served as a controller?

Yes. If you want to work that long.

 

[Stinger]

So jobs such as OMIC and other jobs in ATC that don’t require a medical or forced 56 retirement is a good way to go the last year or two of your career to get the 1.7 for every year served as a controller?

If you try to go from a controller to an OM, and only give yourself two years to do it and apply for jobs I think you'd have to get extremely lucky to get hired for one of those, especially without having supervisor experience. Little better chance of getting a staff support job, but I'd still give myself a 5 year buffer to apply and try to get selected.
For an OM/ATM job, probably plan for 7-8 years trying to get one you want, which includes time spent as a supervisor.

 

[MJ]

Get a job as the janitor. As long as it’s federal you’re good.

 

[ekkojohn]

Permanent staff specialist, they usually get lots of bidders in the ARTCC. Even a specialist at headquarters that’s permanent will do it for you.