Fair, but OT abuse needs to be felt by the FAA. We need way more for OT. 40 hour work and 1.5x pay for OT are both almost 100 years old. It’s time something is done about that. They made those numbers up a long time ago and what, it’s supposed to be that forever and ever? Fuck that.
lol it wasn’t about how much I was saving, it was about having high standards and it actually getting done. I live in the Virgin Islands where there’s a lack of skilled workers for one, and two an even further lack of reliable workers. You call 5 contractors to come out, 3 no call no show and the other two are 6-8 hours late. Nah. I’ll go at it alone. I also have a high personal standard and a lot of pride in my work and/or product. This was a flip, one getting sold to people in tax brackets higher than I’ll ever see and it had to reflect that.
The only way I could ever be a supe is if it was at STT
Hey props, I am also my own construction contractor, mechanic, all that jazz. That said the point I'm making is you are confusing someone not doing something with someone being unable to do something. I'm sure many surgeons could learn ATC. That they didn't isn't justification thay you should be in the same pay grade as them.
I think anyone who don’t at least quit the union if this happens is absolutely nuts. It would mean at least 12 years would pass between the opportunity to even vote on a contract. That is 50% or more of a lot of people’s careers.
When put like this, if this doesn’t wake people the hell up that NATCA has become the complacent ones, then nothing will. They are drunk on NATCA koolaid at that point.
I work at a level 11 on the East Coast; out of all my friends I went to college with I’m a middle of the pack earner and I’m the only one who reports to a physical location everyday and the only one doing shift work (and the only one who had to move away from home for work). Also, I went to a mid tier state school so my college buddies aren’t some group of talented, polished, business professionals. They chill at home and sling cyber security software for $200,000+. I make as much as my high school best friend with 3 DUI’s and multiple stints in county jail who sells plumbing supplies. The pay should make the shift work, rattler schedule, mandatory OT, etc worth it…but quite frankly, it does not.
well we getting the same as all government employees i think the point is that maybe it's time to increase that 1.6% in jan which is actually .1% if you pay dues. So that's what the union has really gotten for us-seeing as how once again, the january raise is ALL govt employees
While I don't disagree, a thing I think about is, there are all sorts of measures to make sure the building is safe before occupancy. Yes, I know we along with pilots have a ridiculous amount of safety measures in place. However, since it was previously mentioned, like a surgeon, if we make a mistake just bad enough, we have a very limited time to figure it out. We don't have weeks/months of inspection to identify the issue that is occurring at that very moment in time. It's figure it out, or people die, potentially seconds from said moment.
I'm less than half that time as a CPC at a level 12 and I'm at ~$195k today with 6 more pay periods to go. I would have at least another $15k if I had worked all my OT that was scheduled/offered. I'm more than comfortable enough with my salary with how I live my life but I'm not someone that goes and gets a $5k/mo place with a Porsche and say I need more money like some of my coworkers! But I also recognize that I have it good compared to plenty of other controllers out there who are lucky to get near $100k.
I would prefer this 100%.
ncept sucks
This is an important point. There is a huge disparity between Center/Tracon/Tower work level and pay. I sit here making 160k+ wondering why everyone is up in arms about pay and forget the level 6's and 7's etc etc who aren't being paid enough relative to the importance of their job. Everybody is going to have a number they think they should be making and every answer is going to be different, but we at LEAST need to keep up with inflation now.
Everyone acts surprised when I want to train on OT, like brother your base pay is higher than what I make with OT, I NEEDA CERTIFY
I'm to know what facility you're at. PM me if you feel like.
The median wage nationwide is now 81k. You won’t generally be poor, with a few glaring exceptions in UHCOL areas on low level pay. But when they pay scale came out it was great, significantly above median which was like 40-50k at the time, but now it’s just kind ok. Not having pay raises tied to inflation has tarnished the allure, to say the least. It’s still a bit above average but still within a standard deviation now.
