That's tough though because he drove his own car (I think) so other lives are getting endangered, but if they want to resist arrest and drive off and aren't armed, that might be a pretty good policy.
Well if they disobey with a gun in their hand I would have to rightfully disagree
Obviously that’s a different situation
He should have complied is very true. It wasn’t a ‘law enforcement policy’ tho. She screwed up...bad. So this one is on her, and it’s hard to see how race is/was in any way involved
Thousands of people don't resist arrest and don't get shot. Period. Not complying with law enforcement and being treated differently than someone who complies with law enforcement is completely acceptable. "Oh he's got fresh pine scent hanging from the mirror" and ALSO has a warrant out for his arrest AND THEN resisting arrest is a whole new ballgame.
It was literally one of the dumbest ass mistakes I've seen on camera, but doesn't happen if he gets cuffed and put in the back of the car without resistance. What's that saying? Don't attribute to malice that can be explained by stupidity?
So if a cop turns on his lights for you speeding and you don’t immediately pull over you think it’s reasonable to get shot? Because that’s the argument you make for someone resisting arrest
That's not it at all. If I get pulled over for speeding and drive to a well lit area, as is my right, and the cop deems it a felony traffic stop for evading police; and gives me lawful commands at gunpoint to turn off my car and exit the vehicle, it is reasonable that if I do not comply and make sudden movements as if I'm pulling for a firearm that I may get shot. If I exit my vehicle and during the process of being handcuffed I attempt to evade arrest and drive off, there is a risk I might get shot as well. This isn't rocket science.
I don't agree that it was "an instant death sentence". I think it was a poorly trained female officer who pulled out the wrong gun and made a huge mistake. I think de-escalation tactics with the Army guy pullover should have been used, obviously. The female officer was poorly trained and the male "veteran" officer that pulled over the lieutenant did a piss poor job of de-escalating. Which now begs the question if cops are inherently racist or inherently poorly trained.
And you don't see a problem with any of the lead up in this hypothetical, or see how that could make someone very anxious and scared, probably on behalf of both parties at that point? Because a lot of these things that have cameras on I see an officer afraid to do his job properly, so he feels the need to be forceful, to tragic results.
Ummm, nobody said this. Not even close
Again, is that poor training or a bad cop? What I see is people not obeying orders or resisting arrest, neither usually have good outcomes. I think we can agree that during any stop, both parties can be scared or anxious. Do you think that as a citizen you also have the duty to de-escalate the situation?
This has happened to me twice where I drove for a few blocks, off busy streets and off a bridge before pulling over so it was safer for both of us as well as other traffic. Both cops borderline screamed at me asking why I was evading police.
A poorly trained cop is a bad cop. This is more what the all cops are bad thing is about than literal "all cops are bad". That along with the system in general just being jacked.
Citizens have rights, not duties.
They are definitely different, in one case a horrible mistake led to the death of one person. In the other a horrible mistake could lead to the potential death of hundreds. The woke mob is always up for blaming someone. What if they demanded the heads of the controllers that they decided gave Kobe’s flight inadequate service. I personally know of instances where shoddy controller practices cost people their lives. Where is the line between negligence and criminal negligence? Sometimes it depends on whose death you caused.
Fuck if this isn't the most convoluted and contorted straw man I've ever heard.
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Really great argument here is just dying from a clot.Fuck if this isn't the most convoluted and contorted straw man I've ever heard.
It's been reiterated about 5 times, but just once more, nobody here gives a shit if you get the vaccine. Rather, people do give a shit that other people suck at math and comparisons and research. People who suck at comparisons and tried (and for fucks sake are STILL trying) to compare this to the flu are the reason a shit-ton more people died than necessary. So don't get the vaccine, fine. But for the love of God, shut the FUCK up.
First, it's one death in 6.5 million doses, not one in a million. And that is not exclusionary to any specific age group or demographic. 1/6,500,000 --- period. The appropriate comparison would be against the IFR of COVID among the entirety of the population (>1/600), but for the benefit of your assertion that as a young healthy adult, 1/6.5 Million is "worse than your chance of dying of COVID", I'll just address the "young and healthy" demographic.
So with that in mind, 7,500 people between 20 and 40 have died from COVID out of a population of ~88,000,000 in that age range. That's one for every 12,000 people, and that's before subtracting those who haven't contracted the virus. Further, an estimated 25% of young people who died had no underlying health conditions. Rounding slightly in your favor, one out of every 50,000 healthy people between 20 and 40 years old has died from COVID. Trying to narrow it down to younger people who receive weekly golden enemas to prove your point that it's better than "one in a million" odds won't be a legitimate argument.
Math: 1/50,000 > 1/6,500,000 by a factor of 130.
A reminder that this is using deaths from COVID against total population in that age range, not even narrowing it down to deaths from COVID against infected population in that age range.
So giving you every benefit of the doubt possible at the moment, I STILL conclude:
You are MORE THAN 130 times more likely to die of COVID as a healthy young adult than you are from a vaccine.
Population of the U.S. by sex and age 2022 | Statista
The estimated population of the U.S.CDC: 75% of youths who died from COVID-19 had underlying health conditions - UPI.com
Three out of four young people who died from COVID-19 in the United States had underlying health conditions, according to data released Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2023 | Statista
Between the beginning of January 2020 and June 14, 2023, of the 1,134,641 deaths caused by COVID-19 in the United States, around 307,169 had occurred among those aged 85 years and older.
