3rd Quarter 2017

[breakaway2000]

Still no facility priority??

If it follows other panels, facility priority will be updated on June 1st

 

[breakaway2000]

I know there are facilities fighting to get their numbers updated, where it stands now, this is going to be super competitive.
125 - Total Eligible Facilities
3,346 - Number of CPC's who can submit eligible ERR's
193 - Total Eligible Losses from Cat 1/Cat 2 facilities
413 - Eligible Gains from facilities below the national average (removed N90/C90/K90/ZUA)

 

[Andrew]

If it follows other panels, facility priority will be updated on June 1st

I thought it was today tho?

 

[Andrew]

I found the PPT on the NATCA website at home, but have not seen or heard of the Monthly Facility and Placement List being published

Yeah I found that and that is accurate for my facility, but I'd really like to see the priority list for faculties

 

[Move78]

Theoretically the projected national average *should* remain the same because they used the average of all like type facilities. Individually, it will help/hurt certain facilities. There are some facilities who couldn't even tell you the last time they washed somebody out who are sitting at 70-80% who will get a huge projected bump then there's other facilities like A80 who's check out rate is closer to 25-40% which (you'd think) would make their staffing situation look that much dire and propel them closer to the top.

I was told to expect a jump to around 91-92%. But I understand your logic as well. As it stands right now the training data is super old so maybe they're also updated the window in which the data is taken. Could explain the change. Idk.
If this is true then I think the effect will be to greatly increase the movement out of the small facilities with huge (100%) success rates and completely destroy the already still movement of the facilities with with high wash rates. But the numbers will accurate atleast.

 

[Move78]

This change in success rate might also alleviate the ridiculous bias on the priority list towards high level tower only with high success rates. Because they will now appear less likely to need bodies.

 

[GO]

Here is a copy if anyone wants to see the PPT. Uploaded from my Mac while at home sourced from NATCA website. Had to remove the old monthly updates to remove file size but this should be correct as of today's update.

 

[corn4ahead]

I'm confused. Per the email we got regarding the changes, they said that the amount of people your facility would be able to release is directly off of the"column Y" number. Well our number was -1.4 meaning we could release 2 people. When I unhid the column that shows how many we could release, it only says 1.

Any idea why it's like that?

Also @breakaway2000, why did you exclude K90? I heard a rumor that they were still taking ERRs, just not new hires.

 

[breakaway2000]

I'm confused. Per the email we got regarding the changes, they said that the amount of people your facility would be able to release is directly off of the"column Y" number. Well our number was -1.4 meaning we could release 2 people. When I unhid the column that shows how many we could release, it only says 1.

Any idea why it's like that?

Also @breakaway2000, why did you exclude K90? I heard a rumor that they were still taking ERRs, just not new hires.

I was basing it off of what you said here.

While this may be the case, I was reading yesterday about the Passover status on the KSN site. It seems that if a facility requests to be on that list, they cannot get any new people until they request to be off it.

 

[breakaway2000]

I was told to expect a jump to around 91-92%. But I understand your logic as well. As it stands right now the training data is super old so maybe they're also updated the window in which the data is taken. Could explain the change. Idk.
If this is true then I think the effect will be to greatly increase the movement out of the small facilities with huge (100%) success rates and completely destroy the already still movement of the facilities with with high wash rates. But the numbers will accurate atleast.

If you heard that, you're certainly more in the know then I am. It would definitely make sense if they go off a recent trend. I'm guessing since the NCEPT started wash out rates have decreased dramatically, ain't nobody got time to wash people out.

 

[corn4ahead]

I was basing it off of what you said here.

Yeah that was the case until we sent some emails to K90 and asked about it.

 

[Move78]

If you heard that, you're certainly more in the know then I am. It would definitely make sense if they go off a recent trend. I'm guessing since the NCEPT started wash out rates have decreased dramatically, ain't nobody got time to wash people out.

I forgot to ask about details pertaining to the timeframe the data was to be taken from.

 

[breakaway2000]

Yeah that was the case until we sent some emails to K90 and asked about it.

Wow, would be a killer backdoor way to get to A90, that'd be awesome.

 

[Move78]

New facility specific training success rates for terminal (coming before sept NCEPT) to be sourced from 2010-2014 numbers as long as there's 10 data points.
Current numbers are 09-12

 

[corn4ahead]

New facility specific training success rates for terminal (coming before sept NCEPT) to be sourced from 2010-2014 numbers as long as there's 10 data points.
Current numbers are 09-12

Source?

 

[Andrew]

I really thought this meant we would get the facility priority today... may 24th

 

[See You Next Time]

I know there are facilities fighting to get their numbers updated, where it stands now, this is going to be super competitive.
125 - Total Eligible Facilities
3,346 - Number of CPC's who can submit eligible ERR's
193 - Total Eligible Losses from Cat 1/Cat 2 facilities
413 - Eligible Gains from facilities below the national average (removed N90/C90/K90/ZUA)

That is insane!!

 

[See You Next Time]

I really thought this meant we would get the facility priority today... may 24th

I was thinking the same thing!!

 

[rugbydog11]

A ton of us thought that.

 

[Move78]

I really thought this meant we would get the facility priority today... may 24th

It means they make 1 final update to the PPT and freeze it for the NCEPT panel.