May (Q2) 2021

IllIlIllIllIllIIl said:
Im not gonna beat this dead horse. OTS get sent str8 to high level facilities and make it everyday.
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When the priority release was negotiated here, the historic success rate of 9s and higher was like 67%, 24% from 8s and lower, and 38% from VRAs. Mind you the high level transfers got the fewest hours. The lower level transfers got about twice that of the 9s and higher. The VRAs got more than 3x that of the 8s and lower. Many VRAs did 250+ hours on the easiest sectors like Athens, Macon, and Columbus. Do we have three to four years for the majority of VRAs to certify? This isn’t minority report where we can see what people are going to do when they transfer here so the agency needs to cap transfers to give people the best chance at being successful and staffing high level facilities.
 
I haven't looked thoroughly enough to see if other facilities had similar outcomes but can anyone explain how SJC managed to release 3 people when they priority tool said they had just one possible release?
 
Acquired Taste said:
What was your background when you got there?
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Level 8 up/down and was told multiple times to go somewhere else and get experience prior to transferring here. Level 8 historical transfers were roughly 45-50% likely to certify, according to the data we presented for the priority release. The success rate dropped off sharply at 7s down to 4s. For every person that comes in from a level 8 and certifies in 4 months there’s people taking 4 years with the same background. We have no way to know who those people are so taking historical success rates based on facility level is the best current indicator the agency has to work with for staffing large facilities.

yourinthehold said:
You apparently made it through training wherever you are so why why can’t the people you are putting down do it?
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If you, as a non volunteer, have worked 7-8 years of six day work weeks, in the last ten years, would you rather:
- Bring in 9s and higher who historical have a 2/3 success rate
OR
- Bring in tower only (0% success rate), 8s and lower (less than 1/4) or 7s and lower (less than 1/6).

Come work my non volunteer overtimes. Come train people for hundreds of hours who shouldn’t have made it out of the simulator lab. Then, tell me if you feel the same way you do now.
 
Electricfence said:
The faa should hire professionals to determine if your future hardship for your wife to see if she is actually depressed and if she actually needs to go crawl in her mommas womb rather than just approving that crap. Hardships are the biggest hurdle to the success of the ncept. You said youd go anywhere.
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I didn’t say I would go anywhere!!
 
Man, LAX had an exemption to NCEPT that allowed them to pull a ton of people out of cat zero facilies and they just yeeted 3 controllers to some of the best staffed towers in the NAS

Well played
 
Dolan said:
Man, LAX had an exemption to NCEPT that allowed them to pull a ton of people out of cat zero facilies and they just yeeted 3 controllers to some of the best staffed towers in the NAS

Well played
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People should be upset about this but no one will do anything.
 
LAX had 27 CPCs 3 years ago, has 47 now, target is 49. Still a sub 60% success rate, but there will be 2 more checkouts within the next month or so. Prior to the MOU it was a sub 40% success rate.

It should be a major concern to people in charge when one of the 5 busiest airports in the NAS is going to ATC Alert for Staffing on a regular basis.
 
BigEggplant said:
LAX had 27 CPCs 3 years ago, has 47 now, target is 49. Still a sub 60% success rate, but there will be 2 more checkouts within the next month or so. Prior to the MOU it was a sub 40% success rate.

It should be a major concern to people in charge when one of the 5 busiest airports in the NAS is going to ATC Alert for Staffing on a regular basis.
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It should be of major concern to people in charge when large facilities are expected to work ridiculous amounts of OT to cover up ineptitude in staffing, and to make do with what we have, instead of being able to split positions when needed or take breaks.
 
Dontbotherme said:
When the priority release was negotiated here, the historic success rate of 9s and higher was like 67%, 24% from 8s and lower, and 38% from VRAs. Mind you the high level transfers got the fewest hours. The lower level transfers got about twice that of the 9s and higher. The VRAs got more than 3x that of the 8s and lower. Many VRAs did 250+ hours on the easiest sectors like Athens, Macon, and Columbus. Do we have three to four years for the majority of VRAs to certify? This isn’t minority report where we can see what people are going to do when they transfer here so the agency needs to cap transfers to give people the best chance at being successful and staffing high level facilities.
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You guys have anyone from those ‘scam’ twelve tracon’s (pct/nct/sct/n90) make it there?
 

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