May (Q2) 2021

[jdatc]

Oh lovely… More people from Elmira, Amarillo, and Moline for a large tracon…

Where oh where are those historical NCEPT success numbers?

 

[CaptainObvious]

Oh lovely… More people from Elmira, Amarillo, and Moline for a large tracon…

Write to Lebovidge and tell him to fix it?

 

[squawkmodec]

Write to Lebovidge and tell him to fix it?

That guy couldn’t organize a two car funeral

 

[Lemonhead]

Oh lovely… More people from Elmira, Amarillo, and Moline for a large tracon…

First ever release for Moline. Where else were we sps to go when there are like 10 places to choose?

 

[amaatc2020]

Oh lovely… More people from Elmira, Amarillo, and Moline for a large tracon…

Big TRACONS are easy and canned. According to the guys who have been here for a long time, if you can check out in AMA you can check out anywhere. It takes 3 years to check out in AMA for a reason.

 

[32andBelow]

Write to Lebovidge and tell him to fix it?

There’s stil time to email Paul and trish

 

[yourinthehold]

Oh lovely… More people from Elmira, Amarillo, and Moline for a large tracon…

This may be the only chance for those guys to get out and make some money or get home. NCEPT is the crappy system we have so complain to the union or vote out the reps who support it. Don't knock your fellow controllers who are trying to better their lives.

 

[Super Salt]

This may be the only chance for those guys to get out and make some money or get home. NCEPT is the crappy system we have so complain to the union or vote out the reps who support it. Don't knock your fellow controllers who are trying to better their lives.

 

[jamisjockey]

People say that till they’re training a level 5 tower only trainee at a large TRACON
Then they say this is the dumbest shit the faa does to people

 

[SaltY]

People say that till they’re training a level 5 tower only trainee at a large TRACON
Then they say this is the dumbest shit the faa does to people

Right, but at the same time the background of individual also counts. You never know the whole picture we just see facility they are currently at.

 

[Dontbotherme]

Write to Lebovidge and tell him to fix it?

I’ve tried to get a four level cap since, I believe, it was May 2015.

First ever release for Moline. Where else were we sps to go when there are like 10 places to choose?

Yet, we should all be surprised when that person washes out of a large tracon because they didn’t have the background to be successful at a busy approach facility.

There’s stil time to email Paul and trish

I prefer to just mention this colossal failure, to them, face to face.

This may be the only chance for those guys to get out and make some money or get home. NCEPT is the crappy system we have so complain to the union or vote out the reps who support it. Don't knock your fellow controllers who are trying to better their lives.

So we should be excited about getting unqualified transfers because a body is a body? Staff the mid level facilities and let those people move up. They have a much better chance at being successful.

 

[Lemonhead]

Yet, we should all be surprised when that person washes out of a large tracon because they didn’t have the background to be successful at a busy approach facility.

Im not gonna beat this dead horse. OTS get sent str8 to high level facilities and make it everyday.

 

[RC619]

Im not gonna beat this dead horse. OTS get sent str8 to high level facilities and make it everyday.

I'm sure this is true, but as a whole which group do you think has a higher success rate?

 

[Lemonhead]

I'm sure this is true, but as a whole which group do you think has a higher success rate?

Yeah definitely if cpc's at 9s/10s can get to 12s I'm sure the success would be higher.

Still doesnt mean 5s can't check out.

Everything aside, NCEPT is the way it is, and it's broken.

 

[Acquired Taste]

Yet, we should all be surprised when that person washes out of a large tracon because they didn’t have the background to be successful at a busy approach facility.

What was your background when you got there?

 

[RC619]

Yeah definitely if cpc's at 9s/10s can get to 12s I'm sure the success would be higher.

Still doesnt mean 5s can't check out.

Everything aside, NCEPT is the way it is, and it's broken.

I agree, its a hard problem to solve.

 

[Shikaka]

Stop sending Prev Exp who wash out and clog the pipelines all the way down to high level facilities so mid levels can move into them

 

[yourinthehold]

I’ve tried to get a four level cap since, I believe, it was May 2015.


Yet, we should all be surprised when that person washes out of a large tracon because they didn’t have the background to be successful at a busy approach facility.


I prefer to just mention this colossal failure, to them, face to face.


So we should be excited about getting unqualified transfers because a body is a body? Staff the mid level facilities and let those people move up. They have a much better chance at being successful.

You apparently made it through training wherever you are so why why can’t the people you are putting down do it?

 

[Electricfence]

The faa should hire professionals to determine if your future hardship for your wife to see if she is actually depressed and if she actually needs to go crawl in her mommas womb rather than just approving that crap. Hardships are the biggest hurdle to the success of the ncept. You said youd go anywhere.

 

[GulfCharlie]

NCEPT is why I’m jumping DOD