May (Q3) 2023

[AJ12]

So you suffer more. Moral is too high

 

[Papacharlie327]

right now rich Santa is sitting in his whitie tighties and his velvet robe in his living room eating flaming hot Cheetos reading this forum and laughing.

 

[nyc516]

Whats the address for the ksn site? I just get a homepage with no way to navigate

It’s still down but from the faa computers it’s: ksn2.faa.gov

 

[Move78]

Why can’t they just release it. Why do they have to make it a whole thing

The results get vetted and joint releases are common practice

 

[LiqaMadiq]

right now rich Santa is sitting in his whitie tighties and his velvet robe in his living room eating flaming hot Cheetos reading this forum and laughing.

ehh it's more likely him rubbing his nipples and praising himself for creating in his words, "a solid transfer system for controllers"... While simultaneously booking his next flight to Hawaii.

 

[ajmezz]

ehh it's more likely him rubbing his nipples and praising himself for creating in his words, "a solid transfer system for controllers"... While simultaneously booking his next flight to Hawaii.

 

[kombucha23]

It’s up your butt!

 

[Bm2434]

When it’s up, can someone do a service to the people on RDO to post it

 

[MagnificentBastard]

When it’s up, can someone do a service to the people on RDO to post it

It will be on the natca page too

 

[Seeyoufly]

It will be on the natca page too

BuT oNlY mEmBeRs CaN gEt iT tHeRe!!!

 

[doodii]

underrated comment

 

[Mike Kilo]

List is up on Natca page.

 

[Acquired Taste]

That's wild. I always thought it could make some sense to do it that way but the way they're doing it seems dumb. Like places at the top like SCT and A80 are only gonna get 1 body while a place like FTW gets a body too from someone just trying to get back to Dallas. Then by the time we get to the second round, nearly all the releases will be exhausted and the draft will be pretty much over. Gonna be hard to staff A80 and SCT with 1 (2 if they're really lucky) people every 3 months.

What would make more sense is to do a draft based on the National Terminal List. Round 1 should be Level 8s-12s. It would give the big facilities that are hurting a good shot at landing some people but also would make is pretty fair for the facility that didn't win the Facility Status and Priority lottery to be ranked number 1 that month in the draft order.

They’ll get more than 1. But now the facility drafting 60th won’t get 0 for the 8th time in a row.

A bunch of the big TRACONS that were hurting (A80, NCT, D10, D01, A90, P50) only got 1 body. SCT surprisingly got 3. Meanwhile, places like IAH and DFW got 4 each, F11 got 3, and they allowed a bunch of lateral/low level transfers to places that get AGs and OTS hires like BTV to CHA, PIA to RFD, ELM to ROC. I'm sure the big places will be staffed and you'll be off your 6 day work weeks in no time if they just keep a steady flow of 1 or no bodies per NCEPT panel coming their way while making sure VRB gets staffed over 100%.

Just put me in charge of the NCEPT rules already. I'm all for maximizing movement, but it should take a back seat to prioritizing staffing at places that desperately need it. After all the moves are made to maximize staffing at the large facilities that don't only receive staffing through NCEPT, then we can work towards filling any remaining releases to lower priority places.

 

[TurnSevenDegreesLeft]

A bunch of the big TRACONS that were hurting (A80, NCT, D10, D01, A90, P50) only got 1 body. SCT surprisingly got 3. Meanwhile, places like IAH and DFW got 4 each, F11 got 3, and they allowed a bunch of lateral/low level transfers to places that get AGs and OTS hires like BTV to CHA, PIA to RFD, ELM to ROC. I'm sure the big places will be staffed and you'll be off your 6 day work weeks in no time if they just keep a steady flow of 1 or no bodies per NCEPT panel coming their way while making sure VRB gets staffed over 100%.

Just put me in charge of the NCEPT rules already. I'm all for maximizing movement, but it should take a back seat to prioritizing staffing at places that desperately need it. After all the moves are made to maximize staffing at the large facilities that don't only receive staffing through NCEPT, then we can work towards filling any remaining releases to lower priority places.

All in favor of Acquired Taste becoming Lord of the NCEPT say aye!

 

[Jake Sully]

People will complain no matter what. It’s impossible to have a perfect system. When the big tracons etc get a ton of people, everyone complains they take all the people at once so trainees can sit in a back log while smaller facilities get no movement- they try to do something about that and people will still complain that the big facilities aren’t getting enough people.

 

[AB19]

Can’t make everyone happy, if the facilities were that important to staff they’d have bids like N90 and C90

 

[PerchPerkins]

How tf did SEA get 3 😂

 

[acutetriangles]

People will complain no matter what. It’s impossible to have a perfect system. When the big tracons etc get a ton of people, everyone complains they take all the people at once so trainees can sit in a back log while smaller facilities get no movement- they try to do something about that and people will still complain that the big facilities aren’t getting enough people.

Everyone except for 123 people will complain about this list.

 

[RedTail]

redacted

 

[Acquired Taste]

You guys can't have it both ways. You can't complain about how shitty staffing is and then think these rules were a good idea. The math just doesn't math. If you have a staffing target of 100+, it is impossible to staff it with 1 body per quarter. 4 bodies per year and you're looking at 25 years to get 100 CPC's assuming every one gets to CPC, no one quits, no one bids a supe job, and no one retires. Maybe I'm the dumb one though. So please, go ahead and break it down for me how NCT is going to get to 161 CPCs taking 1 ERR every 3 months. But hey, at least the guy from SAV was able to get back home to Cedar Rapids, Iowa.