ajmezz
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I was making a dynamic decisions joke. I have no idea what those comments say lol. Either way they’re kinda bs. Isn’t that the entire purpose of ncept? Get rid of the nepotism?
February (Q2) 2023
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32andBelow
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The FAAs method of getting rid of nepotism is just make it so no one gets hired and no one can transfer
No I don’t want anyones chance ruined, I think once it’s locked it shouldn’t be able to be changed. We show releasable on PPT. They are going to fix their error so nobody can go now. We were legit releasable
Until they plucked one to a FLM spot couple weeks ago. The cycle begins again try and get back to the magic numbers. But trainees are few and far between they aren’t getting enough through OKC.
I appreciate everyone's work on these threads, makes it easy to understand. I'm at zau currently with papers in for zdv. The natca rep reached out a couple days ago and said I was top 3 in the list and that they were accepting 3 this round. Obviously I know nothing is guaranteed and I don't have my hopes up, but I didn't see ZDV in the gaining facilities priority list. I'm not sure what I'm missing. Either they gave me wrong information or the gaining list is wrong? Or am I just a dummy and I don't understand any of this?
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Facilities are designated as either releasing or gaining facilities, not both. Unfortunately for you, since ZDV is able to release they will not be able to gain.
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This is one of the dumbest concepts in the whole process. Why can’t they gain?
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The language for that isn't in the rules like it has been in the past. My rep said he talked to someone and confirmed that places will be able to gain and release on this panel.
The only reason that happens is because by the time it gets down to those places, the facility that was eligible to release at the start of the panel released to somewhere higher on the priority list and no longer can release by the time it gets down to it. For example, on the last panel U90 and ELP could release 1. They each has a selection to SCT at priority 6. When it got down to A80 at priority 12, U90 and ELP were ranked 1 and 2 respectively but they didn't get selected because they already used up their release going to SCT. A80 then took as many eligible people on their list that were left which was their 3rd and 4th choice.
It never does
This is untrue
It was a tool inserted by management to reduce ERRs for a few panels and was eliminated a few panels ago
This is how it’s designed to work but all the ATMs are “imperfect” so there’s always a small window to try and make it accurate. But no one is going to be on board with using the wrong data on purpose.
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Any easy spot to get ATM contact info? Takes forever digging through org charts that may or may not be accurate
Soul_Controller
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If you're at an FAA computer, the TCIP website has facility info that shows who the NATCA Rep and ATM are. Seems pretty up to date
facilities are either gaining only or releasing only for each round. if zdv can release in round 1 and get to the % to be able to gain in round 2, then they can pick up round 2. however only 8 and 9 can pick up in round 2 :/ so really, looks like only levels 8 and 9 can release round 1 then pick up round 2
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This is so fucking complicated for no reason. Center swaps should be fairly easy to accommodate yet they hardly ever get approved
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Well how often are they submitted? Swaps should be approved if both facilities are green at the end of the panel, iirc.
This is untrue
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Sounds like everything is untrue and nobody really knows what’s going on.
Exactly what the NCEPT panels want. I can’t wait to see how the dynamic decisions play out on this one.
Exactly what the NCEPT panels want. I can’t wait to see how the dynamic decisions play out on this one.
what is correct then? the ncept i got picked up last year released someone round 1, and then picked me up round 2.
This is true
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How is my comment untrue? ZDV will release in Round 1 and be unable to pick up in Round 2 due to the rules for 8-9’s only.
There’s no restriction on gaining and releasing in the panel as a whole so you can both gain and release. If any facility is green it can release in round 1. You can be green (85/85)and also less than 90 projected. Green 4-7s can release in both rounds. Yes 10-12s are unable to gain in round 2.
Also there’s technically no guarantee a green facility will release because it depends on the rankings.
